[quote jj1968]@gardenbird48
It is not clear exactly where these crimes took place - some of them were definitely in women's single sex spaces.
Another lie. Not one of the crimes listed was committed in a single sex space.
Convictions/charged so far for 2020 of trans identified individuals - violent or sexual crimes = 23 inc. murder and rape.
And another lie. Four of the crimes listed did not involve violence. But more importantly, of those convicted of murder or a sexual offence only 5 identified as trans women. The rest were all men who reportedly crossdressed, who were tried as men in the courts.
Of those who identified as trans, one was a prisoner, currently on trial for murdering a fellow prisoner and notorious paedophile who has aaid they suffer from gender dysphoria, although they are being tried as a man. Two were convicted of possession of images of child sexual abuse and two for breaches of a sexual harm prevention order.
So if transcrime are correct not one single person who actually identifies as a trans woman was convicted of rape, or sexual assault, in 2020.[/quote]
Your post here has actually proved the point of why many women are so scared. Men, like these convicted men (and for clarity, I’m talking about those tried as men) do and will continue to gain access to female only spaces when cross dressing simply because as the stronger sex they can. Or even when not cross dressing. The bearded variety of “woman”, dressed in menswear springing to mind. It’s pretty standard as far as I’m aware for a drag Queen to use the women’s when “looking fishy” 🤢 afterall.
So just because these men were convicted as men, it doesn’t mean that they haven’t in the past claimed access to female only spaces. It really is not pertinent whether or not they were in female only spaces at the moment they were caught because we are talking here more globally about the erosion of women’s rights and how woman are viewed in general in certain sections of society. Because these are actually the men we are talking about. Men, who try on woman for a while, then attack women. Or even men, who try on woman all of the time but continue with the same male behaviour as ever before. But polarised in the hatred of women because they cannot be us.
We don’t want men, who try on what they think woman is for a while (or even all of the time) in our spaces. It makes them unsafe. We already know we are unsafe in the wider community. We just want a small space and safety away from these people when we are at our most vulnerable, please.
And before more is made of the point that these men were tried as men. Of course these men were convicted as men. They were hardly going to offer themselves on a platter à la Philip Bunce. They’re going to keep their mouths firmly shut on that one. Male privilege striking again.
I know I’m not explaining myself well and I do expect this post to be torn to pieces. I just want to reiterate what I already said upthread. Most women have no objection to the transwoman going quietly about her business. She has been around for donkeys years and understands our frailties and stands beside us. And when middle class white women call gender critical women transphobic, this is the type of transwoman these mc white women have in mind. It is they, who lack the education, not me.