Suzanne Moore left the Guardian

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I've just seen this on Twitter. That'll be even more lost readers then. Not that I'm one of their readers.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/suzanne-moore-s-departure-is-a-sad-day-for-the-guardian/amp?__twitter_impression=true

She says it was her choice to go

twitter.com/suzanne_moore/status/1328413022356983809?s=19

Wonder what she'll do next. She helped make me a feminist as a young un in the 90s. I salute her!

Did I imagine it - I thought that they were getting rid of LOJ as well ?

I read on one of Glinner's mailouts that the Guardian didn't renew Little Owen's contract. Are they getting rid of both sides to start again?

This is now trending on Twitter. Julie Bindell has commented on it, amongst others.

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1328384563773575168

Scout thanks that's where I read it.

@Mashingthecompost and @Woods52 - Unherd, The critic, Spiked (online). The Times, the economist and the spectator (online spectator has more diverse stuff than the actual magazine). People question spiked but they publish a range of authors with different views.

I think she, Hadley and anyone else who's not shit at the guardian should start their own paper. Blah blah blah death of print media blah blah blah...I think it's been exaggerated quite frankly. If toilet paper like the graun can keep going despitr being largely garbage then there must be market for something that makes sense and is readable.

The Economist is GC and very good for analysis, but they do tend to treat anyone outside the London/Brussels/Washington metropolitan elite as a foreign species to be observed with curiosity. Their monthly lifestyle magazine is lousy though.

gary linekar tweeted 'sorry to hear that.'

cue the wailing mostly from fellas, 'no, gary, no.' 'are you a terf, gary'

urgh.

Janice Turner giving The Guardian & a certain male columnist a going over for hounding out Suzanne and hosting Frankie Boyle:

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1328453601728061440

If she is leaving then I am leaving. I have deleted the app and hidden the guardian on my Google feed. Might resubscribe to the times.

[quote HecatesCats]Janice Turner giving The Guardian & a certain male columnist a going over for hounding out Suzanne and hosting Frankie Boyle:

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1328453601728061440[/quote]
Yes the Frankie Boyle stuff makes me sick. On what planet is it the ‘right side of history’ to joke about rape and disabled children? It makes so angry the way the woke crowd just turn a blind eye to this malicious and disgusting stuff that was completely outrageous when Boyle was performing it (so no excuse that times have moved on) and when he was a fully grown adult. Yet if any woman has so much as liked a GC tweet in her life, she is hounded to death for it and never forgiven.

Every so often I forget what Frankie Boyle said and have to go and check.

It is always worse than I'd remembered. Abhorrent things.

I'm a bit speechless at the obituary for the Ripper. Who was it that fundraised for a museum of women's rights that turned out to be a Ripper museum?

We are through the looking glass.

Guardian alternatives - I still browse the site sometimes, but don't buy it. I just try to look at lots of different sources. Reuters, Times, Spectator, Herald, some of the online sites like Counter Punch, BBC, Mail, Telegraph, The Sun, small local papers. And take all of it with a large pinch of salt. The media is in a difficult place right now. I am less and less inclined to read some of the 'columnists' that now pass for journalists - so much of it is just loud opinion. A few writers are worth reading, but one can find any amount of opinions on social media - what I really want and miss is quality reporting.

@ArabellaScott

Every so often I forget what Frankie Boyle said and have to go and check.

It is always worse than I'd remembered. Abhorrent things.

I'm a bit speechless at the obituary for the Ripper. Who was it that fundraised for a museum of women's rights that turned out to be a Ripper museum?

We are through the looking glass.

It was something to do with the Diva/awards owner - a relative?

@Scout2016

I read on one of Glinner's mailouts that the Guardian didn't renew Little Owen's contract. Are they getting rid of both sides to start again?

Interesting. I just noticed that Squealer now has a patreon. Is he setting up some sort of woke Pravda or something?

I'm really enjoying newsletters atm Glosswitch's, Helen Lewis's Blue Stocking, Oliver Burkeman's Imperfectionist. I like Stephen Bush's Morning Call from the New Statesman (his take on the latest news plus links elsewhere) and Prospect Magazine.

I haven't seen any confirmation of their not renewing Owen Jones's contract. I think it was just rumour & speculation on the basis that he was crowdfunding to make his own media, but he could be doing both.

Good for her, she’s been treated appallingly. It’s such an awful publication these days.

Thank you @SmallPug! Much appreciated!

Agree with HecatesCat about the newsletters. Glosswitch’s is very good. I’ve just got into Helen Lewis’s and Caroline CP does one too.

Kath Viner has been a disaster - not just on this issue but many others. Her inability to protect the paper's liberal values in the face of authoritarian bullies inside and outside the organisation will damage the paper for years to come. She never understood that she had a duty and the the power to stand up to them, and if she had the tone of this bloody debate would have changed. No idea what the finances are like but editorially she has been terrible.

AnotherLass did he (LOJ) raise any cash? or are his fan club a bit strapped

I am really impressed with the 'joining the dots' and investigating journalism in Private Eye. It's a slightly impenetrable format at times but really exposes the cess pit of politics that we have.