There's a WOMAN in the White House (nearly)

[ReallyRatherNerdy]

Finding this very emotional. Dancing round the kitchen. Anyone else?

@Floisme

I don't like sounding this negative but surely the time to mobilise and organise was when they needed the votes?

Worth doing so in Georgia now though to ensure the republicans keep control of the senate.

Penises were invented before straps. But 'we' use the neologism anyway.

Such utter silliness

@Floisme

I don't like sounding this negative but surely the time to mobilise and organise was when they needed the votes?

Lobbying Republican representatives?

I guess I was basically asking whether there was any lobbying of the Democrats by women's groups before the election, when they still wanted women's votes? Or were they all too cowed by the Christian Right tag? I can understand if they were - it was very intimidating, even on these boards - it just seems a bit rich to start talking about resistance now.

Hallelujah for Kamala!

Oh no hallelujah for the trans nonsense though. Women are women, no one else

What we think makes no difference, therefore I prefer to cling to the hope the glass is half full.
Throwing others under the bus is part, presumably, of getting to the position of power to do rather better things?

The U.S.A system is complex, to put it mildly. but it seems there is a possibility yet to come, where Biden /Harris might get more control and be able to change the overbearing influence of religious misogyny.

That's why I'm heartened by the quote of her asking "What law gives government power over MEN'S bodies?"
Biden is Catholic, but said not to believe his belief should be inflicted on others.

To me, it would seem obvious that anyone with a religious belief that termination is murder, must be allowed (i.e. expected) to declare conflict of interest. Lawyers and judges are perfectly accustomed to setting aside their bias. However, to believe that one will burn forever in the eternal fires of hell, if one arrives at the 'wrong' verdict, is an intolerable position for a judge to be placed in.

S/he might be able to sentence their own dear old granny or DC to jail, and remain impartial. But they wouldn't be expected to try. Yet eternal hell fire is even more of a bias-inducer than having a cross granny or DC

it just seems a bit rich to start talking about resistance now.

I get your point - but you can’t restart from the past, the earliest you can start something is now and the fight needs starting.

I’m happy there is a female VPOTUS, but I’m not happy about it being KH. Not happy about how she climbed the ladder to get there or many of her views. There are many better qualified more deserving women that should be there, like Condoleezza Rice for example

This.

Except I think the sex of the person is irrelevant. It is their views that matter.

The celebration of the achievement of office simply because that person is a certain category or identity is utterly spurious. Look at the exhilaration when Obama won office as a POC, yet he was a disappointment - complete waste of time.

Both Biden and Harris are beyond contempt IMO.
Biden - friend of murderers and terrorists - Harris liberal leftie and destroyer of women's rights.

It is also a puzzle to me that Americans who have even a molecule of Irish DNA feel they have the right to meddle in Irish affairs.

Biden is Catholic, but said not to believe his belief should be inflicted on others. until it comes to the belief that men can become women?

Maybe you’ll realise how out of step you are with the cultural bare minimum of respect for trans people. just a thought :)

@Conniethesensible

Maybe you’ll realise how out of step you are with the cultural bare minimum of respect for trans people. just a thought :)

The cultural respect for men you mean? In other words the patriarchy?

The cultural respect for men you mean?

Plus ça change. The US has always been backward on women's rights. That's why it's taken 230 years to elect a female VP.

@Conniethesensible

Maybe you’ll realise how out of step you are with the cultural bare minimum of respect for trans people. just a thought :)

What does this even mean?

I wasn't clear: I meant that US females are a much smaller cohort than all of the people worldwide and in the US who would have been negatively affected a second Trump term. Not that this makes throwing them under the bus acceptable.

I'm aware of the peace deals and am not a fan of Democrat warmongering. I judge Trump's loose cannon disregard for anything other than his own benefit to be more dangerous on the whole. I have spent a lot of time in countries with similar leadership styles but less influence. That's just my perspective.

@ThinEndOfTheWedge

it just seems a bit rich to start talking about resistance now.

I get your point - but you can’t restart from the past, the earliest you can start something is now and the fight needs starting.

And I also take your point, I really do. But I also think that, if we're to have a hope in hell of winning this, we need to be more honest with ourselves about how we got here. I believe that we could and we should have had these kinds of discussions openly and during the election campaign. I think we bottled it.

A woman who thinks anyone can be a woman. We could save the moving costs and just have Trump identify as a black woman. Once he says the magic words she'll be cool with it.

It's like "wohoo! I'm first female VP! Now... what laws can I pass that would make that statment meaningless?!"

Oh come off it. Someone who grew up being trans can't POSSIBLY understand sexism, and prejudice, and bigotry fuelled by the patriarchy (sarcasm). Just like women face this rubbish every day, with POC getting even more schick. Maybe Kamala recognises that?

Given, as a previous poster has already said, that the Senate is Republican, it'll be interested to see what the new administration manage to do.
I'm beyond delighted to see Trump gone, but have no hopes for Biden/Harris being women-friendly

@Conniethesensible

Oh come off it. Someone who grew up being trans can't POSSIBLY understand sexism, and prejudice, and bigotry fuelled by the patriarchy (sarcasm). Just like women face this rubbish every day, with POC getting even more schick. Maybe Kamala recognises that?

KH has had to self flagellate over her past sins: ^ Kamala Harris Takes 'Responsibility' for Opposing Trans Surgeries^

www.out.com/news-opinion/2019/1/22/kamala-harris-takes-responsibility-opposing-trans-surgeries

I think many have forgotten that Condolessa Rice was the FIRST black female Secretary of State from 2005-2009. She was fourth in line on the Presidential Line of Succession. That meant she was in an extremely powerful position and shouldn't have her accomplishment diminished.

I suppose I wanted to say that although this woman and a woman of color has gone up into the second highest position in my country, the contributions of many others affect our lives too and should be celebrated.

I live in Houston and it is the fourth largest city in the USA. Kathryn Whitmire was the first female mayor from 1982-1991. Lee Brown, the first African-American man was mayor from 1998-2004. Anisse Parker was the first openly gay mayor from 2004-2010. We currently have an African-American mayor, Sylvester Turner, since 2016.
"Ma" Ferguson was the first female governor of Texas, back in 1925-27 & 1933-1935. Our last was Ann Richards in 1991-1995.

I am Hispanic and EXTREMELY proud of the first Hispanic mayor of a major US city of El Paso, Texas (my hometown) of Raymond Telles. He was also the first Hispanic US Ambassador in 1961-67.

Considering that most people think of Texas as some kind of backwater, we are more progressive than people think. Plus, the mayors, the council members, the county judges, the senators, etc... affect more people day-to-day than the highest position in the country. They are all deserving of our admiration. It is what I teach my children anyways...