There's a WOMAN in the White House (nearly)

[ReallyRatherNerdy]

Finding this very emotional. Dancing round the kitchen. Anyone else?

Well that GLAAD link seems to be confirming what I said (thanks for linking, Escapeplanning ). Any thoughts on this Turnitonagain ? Once gender identity is protected at federal level, how can Christians' entrenched views have any relevance?

Can I also take issue with the suggestion that we should not discuss American politics. The people looking to push through self ID here look around the globe for support, oft citing Canada as a model. The USA passing a federal mandate that gender identity is a Civil Right would have massive implications over here.

Here's a passage from the BBC about Congressman Doug Collins of - you guessed it - Georgia, on the issue:

Congressman Doug Collins of Georgia warned that the act could force athletic competitions to allow transgender participants.

"Never before in American history has one political party tried to so dramatically rewrite federal civil rights laws to include an undefined, self-referential, ideologically driven term - 'gender identity' - in the US Code, applicable to literally any entity that receives federal financial assistance, including elementary schools, colleges and health care centres nationwide," he said during a speech on the floor of the House of Representatives.

@Delphinium20

“ What you think is dementia is really Joe Biden's stutter which he has struggled with his whole life. Go listen to his speeches from 20-30 years ago and you will heart the same pauses and falters as he struggles not to stutter.”

I’m afraid I disagree. A stutter does not cause one to mistake his dead son for his granddaughter, nor claim said son ran for senate (Beau never ran for senate, he was the attorney general for Delaware) as seen here on this clip from Nov 3:

While Biden claims to have had a stutter since childhood, the first such mention I can find in the New York Times archive is during his failed presidential run in 2007:

www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/us/politics/09biden.html?searchResultPosition=10

By this point Biden has been a senator for four decades.

If anyone is interested, I suggest listening to Biden’s speech in 1994 in favor of passing the Crime Bill to hear Biden in his prime.

I’m not a medical professional; my experience with dementia only extends to the two members of family who had it. I don’t know if Biden has dementia, but I do see similarities between his behavior and speaking with those of my family, certainly a cognitive decline between the man in 1994 and 2020. In the US, Biden would certainly not be the first president propped up behind the scenes due to his failing health: Reagan, of course, had Alzheimer’s, Wilson had a stroke that left him greatly incapacitated. So it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.

I’m not a medical professional; my experience with dementia only extends to the two members of family who had it.

There you go then.
Two family members with it does not an Armchair Doctor make.

Not read the whole thread, but why on earth is anyone discussing if Biden has dementia? He sounds perfectly coherent to me, and infinitely more so than the vile orange man, but it doesn't matter anyway. He's won the election.

I have/had 2 family members too. Both very different in nature and you can’t always really know unless you’ve known the person before. To be honest - both were/are quite eccentric to start with.

Not read the whole thread, but why on earth is anyone discussing if Biden has dementia? He sounds perfectly coherent to me, and infinitely more so than the vile orange man, but it doesn't matter anyway. He's won the election

Exactly!
Seen a few posts on here theses past few days saying HOW old?! propped up by a stick, frail, dementia....
Are they watching something else lol?
He came across perfectly fine to me, and obviously did to lots of others as he won the election.
I think people just see what they want to see as he seems perfectly OK to me.
Being in your 70s is NOT too old, and Joe Random sat at home analysing whether you've got all your marbles just because you said the wrong name (shit, I do that all the time and I'm in my 40s lol)
must get really tiresome

@Quaagars

I’m not a medical professional; my experience with dementia only extends to the two members of family who had it.

There you go then.
Two family members with it does not an Armchair Doctor make.

I’d say that’s precisely what makes one an “armchair doctor”— relating to or diagnosing via anecdotal experience. What it doesn’t make for is a medical doctor, which I freely admit I am not.

Just offering my opinion.

See this is my problem with this whole thing. People hate Trump so much that they're willing to ignore that Biden clearly has cognitive issues, that KH's path to the White House has been manipulated and that this election was actually a very close call, far closer than many anticipated and will be fought out in the courts. Trump does have a case to be examined whether we like it or not. I think this head in the sand approach is incredibly dangerous, the democratic process is being blurred. We need to be careful what we wish for.

I’d say that’s precisely what makes one an “armchair doctor”

Actually, yeah - makes an armchair doctor but just that - sat pontificating whether old man has dementia just because knows a couple of family members do - as I said, randomers thinking they can speculate on someone's health and cast aspersions, ''cos old.

People hate Trump so much that they're willing to ignore that Biden clearly has cognitive issues, that KH's path to the White House has been manipulated and that this election was actually a very close call, far closer than many anticipated and will be fought out in the courts

Yep. Trump Derangement Syndrome, innit.

Trump does have a case to be examined whether we like it or not

Oh God, really?!
Where's his proof then?
He lost.
He's just been yelling on Twitter (LITERALLY, CAPS AND EVERYTHING)
how "I won, A LOT!" and generally ranting.
They've been getting more and more tin foil hat and ranty,
He's the one that comes across as not well to me!

Seeing as we're going all Arm Chair Doctor

So you're only going by his tweets then? That's all you're taking into account? You're not looking anywhere else for information? You really should do you know.

So you're only going by his tweets then? That's all you're taking into account?

Where did I say I was just going by his tweets?
Have you not seen him speak as well?!
He hardly comes across as a rational, sane choice as President.

There is no evidence of voter fraud. It is a cynical tactic which everyone knew Trump would deploy - because he’s said so himself. He was called out on it by Hilary Clinton in the run up to the 2016 election. Read this article from October which catalogues how the ‘myth of voter fraud’ has been used as propaganda. ‘Trump has questioned the legitimacy of the vote, falsely suggesting it will be “rigged” against him and his campaign has floated using the idea of a fraudulent election as the basis for overriding the popular vote in key states...’ www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/26/us-election-voter-fraud-mail-in-ballots?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

His claims will be investigated and he will still lose. He is a narcissistic megalomaniac with ambitions to destroy democracy. It was a case of the devil and the deep blue sea.

Exactly @Hecatescat

You're responding to points I have not made. Not sure why? Nowhere have I claimed he's a good choice for president. And YOU were the one that mentioned his tweets, seemingly as evidence that there are no discrepancies with this election process and that there's nothing to see here. This constant shouting down of anyone who says "hold on a minute..." is one of the reasons why he got in in the first place and why so many voted for him this time, leaving the dems without the decisive win that was expected.

@HecatesCats

There is no evidence of voter fraud. It is a cynical tactic which everyone knew Trump would deploy - because he’s said so himself. He was called out on it by Hilary Clinton in the run up to the 2016 election. Read this article from October which catalogues how the ‘myth of voter fraud’ has been used as propaganda. ‘Trump has questioned the legitimacy of the vote, falsely suggesting it will be “rigged” against him and his campaign has floated using the idea of a fraudulent election as the basis for overriding the popular vote in key states...’ www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/26/us-election-voter-fraud-mail-in-ballots?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

His claims will be investigated and he will still lose. He is a narcissistic megalomaniac with ambitions to destroy democracy. It was a case of the devil and the deep blue sea.

Well will see won't we and no one will be happier than me with a certain victory and him gone.

I was responding to this.
Which was you.

Trump does have a case to be examined whether we like it or not

To which I said, Oh God, really?
Have a look at Hecates post, that says it better than I did.

I know they did. That's why I responded to it. A much clearer, less reactive and more intelligent post to engage with

My other post was relating to the poster armchair diagnosing dementia in JB so was like "well, if we're armchair diagnosing now" so not really just at you.

www.channel4.com/news/trump-doesnt-have-the-facts-and-doesnt-have-the-law-he-can-try-but-this-is-over-law-professor-neal-katyal

@BlueCatRedCat

Just wanted to add, in case it wasn't clear, the Georgia Senate run off elections are national ballots, not just for the citizens of that state. It's potentially huge!

Your statement is demonstrably untrue and quite misleading. You clearly are unfamiliar with how our Congress (Senate & House) elections work.

Senate and House elections (general, midterms, and runoffs) are voted in by citizens of the state they represent. State Reps (House 2yr terms & Senate 6yr terms) serve in Congress as the legislative part of our national government. However, they represent only the citizens of their state unless opining as 'Congress' or 'The House' or 'The Senate' as their national influence is inextricably tied to be being elected as a state representative serving in the national legislative branch (to ensure the state's i.e. interests of that state's citizens on a national level are recognized and considered).

Yes GA's Senate choices could greatly impact the Senate but we don't vote for GA's Senate Reps on a national level. Their runoffs will be decided in January of 2021 by GA registered voters - not by any other state or national vote.

An attempt to 'nationalize' the race means that they will lean hard on the national population to coerce/influence GA voters to go their way, (either side) not that the national voices actually count or will be allowed to weigh in via vote (they can't and won't, it isn't how it works). The idea is to inundate GA citizens with propaganda serving whichever side the propagandist belongs to in the hopes that the sheeple will follow whatever they are pushing and thus gain votes to secure their preferred elect.

@Aesopfable

are deeply against trans rights to the point of banning them from the military.

Banning people with a reliance on medication from the military seems a sensible thing to do whatever the condition. And given factors like dysphoria, surgical complications, need to dilate ‘neovaginas’ and high rates of suicide/suicidal thoughts, it would suggest they are exactly the sort you do not want in your fighting unit where men’s lives depend on each other’s actions. That is before you add in things like requiring commanders to ensure the usage of ‘correct’ pronouns when issuing orders in extremely tense/extreme risk situations.

^All of this, 100%