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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.

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VictoriaLucas102 · 06/11/2020 09:31

twitter.com/hightreebud/status/1323965389144002562?s=20

This one’s popped onto my radar a few times over the past couple of weeks .. thought it was worth sharing as there is a lot to unpack. Apologies if it’s already been shared .. I checked back but couldn’t see anything.

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fatblackcatspaw · 06/11/2020 17:46

This person has also been elected as women's officer for SNP Craiglockhart consituency - there was a thread about it here a few days ago.

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 17:49

As noted on the Twitter thread, given recent events in France, choosing the image of a figure beheading their 'evil' enemies is really in incredbily poor taste to say the least. For an erstwhile politician, it's ... well.

Butterer · 06/11/2020 17:53

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ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 17:58

Yes, he has.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/11/2020 18:08

Oh, here we go with the sword imagery again

That stood out to me too. TRAs and swords seem to be a thing.

gardenbird48 · 06/11/2020 18:23

When I first heard about this individual I wondered if they were so amazing and compassionate and ‘unmale’ and brought something so amazing to the table that somehow the staff and women genuinely felt that it could work (obviously I have learnt more from other mn posters that it doesn’t work like that and there is absolutely no way it is acceptable), but it seems that my optimism was totally misplaced and they are displaying some extremely nasty and aggressive behaviour.

They haven’t tried to convince anyone of their suitability- ‘I know I shouldn’t have taken the job but I work super hard for the women here and keep right out of the way so I don’t trigger ptsd’ etc etc.

Just plain old murderous aggression towards anyone who doesn’t toe the line - god knows what’s it’s like for those poor women needing help.

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EyesOpening · 06/11/2020 18:29

I don't know if I articulated my last post properly.

I understood you perfectly.
I'm not sure if MW did mean those people specifically but, yes, one could conclude that it would include them too, in which case MW is not working for the best interests of those people

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 18:50

'Kindness wins' - followed by a beheading and an insinuation that anyone who doesn't agree with MW is 'evil'.

War is peace.

Slavery is freedom.

gardenbird48 · 06/11/2020 18:58

@Butterer

Am I misinterpreting the message, or is there the implication that "transphobes" (their definitionwould include women they are working with who may legitimately require single sex spaces and workers) are evil?
Yes you were absolutely clear - if women can’t access the service because it is run by that particular person because of their biology then they will be among the numbers objecting to that person being in the job and therefore are absolutely being targeted by this communication. Surely there is some mechanism for getting a proper complaint about this escalated to someone who will actually do something??
ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 19:13
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Good. Now to question what on earth MW is doing running a Rape Crisis centre whil.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 06/11/2020 19:22

I despair. I look at politics in Scotland and wonder where our big hitters are, the intellectuals, the people with broad life experience, the people with passion - and what I get is Mridul..

...who tweets that image shortly after a man was beheaded in Paris. I mean, it doesn't give me confidence that Mridul has ANY insight into what is going on in world politics.

Suspect Mridul is doing this for Mridul's benefit. SOMEONE has to be the First Transgender MSP, after all.

stumbledin · 06/11/2020 19:23

AS I think someone said up thread, it maybe isn't that useful to get sidetracked into commentating on one "high profile" individual. eg the person name here has come up in all these threads over the past year www.mumsnet.com/SearchArch?mustmatch=Mridul+Wadhwa&dontmatch=&nickname=&src_displ_option=s_m_d_m&fromDate=01%2F01%2F19&toDate=06%2F11%2F20&topicmode=chs&chosentops=5365

The issue is why organisation like Women's Aid Scotland and Rape Crisis Scotland have compromised the basic aims on which they were founded ie providing services to women who experience male violence because of their sex. Alone individual cant reach a position of influence unless those around them allow them to reach that position.

I know there was a recent statement in UK Government clarifying (again) the right of single sex provision under the EA. Maybe it is time that SMPs were challenged.

Unfortunately as with some parts of Government, Education, Health and ... trans activism has sucessfully inserted itself into Women's Sector Groups.

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 19:26

Women's Aid Scotland and Rape Crisis Scotland have compromised the basic aims on which they were founded ie providing services to women who experience male violence because of their sex. Alone individual cant reach a position of influence unless those around them allow them to reach that position.

Maybe it is time that SMPs were challenged.

I agree.

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 19:27

I also suspect that these organisations are not 100% compromised and that there are some staff who are not on board with TWAW.

FindTheTruth · 06/11/2020 19:30

One MNetter described that by the end of the meeting many of the women were in tears. Staff were interested only in the inclusion of people born male in the services and refuges and had no interest whatsoever in what the female born people were saying, expressing or sharing other than to dismiss it as wrong. Afterwards those staff (I believe this included area management) stated openly that no female born service users had ever raised any issues with them, so denying those women, their voices or that meeting ever existed

Erasure of women. Erasure of biological females. these things happen because of biology.

littlbrowndog · 06/11/2020 21:07

Well they don’t get funded if they are not inclusive.

All the groups in Scotland are interlinked.

Same main players. Same funding.

Closed shop

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2020 21:11

Well they don’t get funded if they are not inclusive.

All the groups in Scotland are interlinked.

I recently reread a Mumsnet thread linked from another forum where a MNer had sneaked into a specific trans meeting and Scottish TRAs and Engender were pretty much boasting about achieving this.

letsgoroundagainbaby · 06/11/2020 21:14

I'm female.

I had trauma therapy for 3 years various sexual assaults, many committed in childhood.

My therapist was male. It was never, ever an issue for me and I recovered very well mostly due to the therapeutic relationship with this man.

I cannot, for one minute, understand why people aren't able to put themselves in the shoes of women who are triggered and scared by men and want to keep their services single sex.

I can't fathom it at all. It's like I just have this incredible ability to see something from a point of view that isn't my own. If only others could.

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 21:34

It's a clever (and deeply fucking immoral) thing they've pulled off here. Anyone who questions a male providing care/support in a role specifically for women is 'transphobic ' and - as we see above - 'evil'.

How on earth we have ended up in this situation, where women who have been traumatised by males and therefore are vulnerable to an involuntary response to males are told they are evil unless they accept male bodied HCPs, male bodied refuge workers, male bodied therapists, even when they have asked (as is their right) for females, completely floors me. It's up there with the 'weaponising trauma ' accusations - absolutely abhorrent behaviour.

And to be clear, I'm not directing that at the TRAs but at the people in power facilitating this horrible bullying and gas lighting.

littlbrowndog · 06/11/2020 22:45

More on Mridul Wadhwa. Prioritising trans survivors and advocating the end of single sex space for women. Quote from MW’s submission to Women and Equalities Committee trans inquiry at Westminster. No concern for women at all but feted by Scotland’s women’s sector. Despicable.

No single sex places for women in Scotland

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.
littlbrowndog · 06/11/2020 22:46

Wrong pic should be this one 🤦‍♀️

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.
Butterer · 06/11/2020 22:47

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littlbrowndog · 06/11/2020 22:48

Corrected butters 👍