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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.

114 replies

VictoriaLucas102 · 06/11/2020 09:31

twitter.com/hightreebud/status/1323965389144002562?s=20

This one’s popped onto my radar a few times over the past couple of weeks .. thought it was worth sharing as there is a lot to unpack. Apologies if it’s already been shared .. I checked back but couldn’t see anything.

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littlbrowndog · 06/11/2020 12:28

From twitter.

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2020 12:43

Surely a breach of the Genuine Occupational Requirement for the Equality Act exemption for a woman being "a female of any age". Not a self IDing MTF trans person.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/11/2020 12:46

I don't understand how the dbs cleared this?

Escapeplanning · 06/11/2020 12:55

Joan McAlpine did some amazing work challenging the trans organisations that wanted the occupational exemptions gone.

In particular the PDF I linked shows they wanted to add a clause that went further than just removing women only and adding trans only jobs as an occupational requirement. There's a video somewhere of Joan's incredulity of this idea that women can't have an exemption but trans should.

There's probably threads if any one wants to search Joan McAlpine.

Graffitiqueen · 06/11/2020 12:59

The type of person who would deceive their way into a rape crisis centre is the last person who should be allowed to work with vulnerable women. Despicable.

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 13:55

Genuine Occupational Requirement for the Equality Act exemption for a woman

The job is specifically and explicitly described as being for a woman. It clearly and for fairly easy to understand reasons requires a woman in role. That's why they've invoked the exemption, very plainly, on the first page of the job ad.

How on earth has this been fudged to include some males?

And how on earth does a male think this doesn't apply to them, or that they don't have to abide by this requirement, or that the reasons for women wanting a woman in this role are not as important as their reasons for wanting the job?

EyesOpening · 06/11/2020 14:07

If an applicant didn't fill out a very important section/declaration, that's incompetence/wilfully ignoring on the part of the hiring people too

PearPickingPorky · 06/11/2020 14:19

Presented without comment.

Other than to say, this individual is being very well-supported in this land-grab of the most sensitive women-only roles by the women who work in the VAWG sector.

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.
IAmNotAGirl · 06/11/2020 14:55

Suggest those on twitter report that tweet for threatening violence.

AnyOldPrion · 06/11/2020 15:05

No inner goddess here. I’m an ordinary women... just very pissed off!

Malvarrosa · 06/11/2020 15:42

Suggest those on twitter report that tweet for threatening violence.

Reported for misgendering - which, unlike VAWG, Twitter bigwigs seem to care about. There’s no way that Reckless Tweeter knows that “the goddess” (sic -even iPhone autocorrect knows it’s a capital G) - punch-drunk and coming up on 48 hours of no sleep post-US election - hasn’t said fuck it all and gone non-binary or even full on male (AKA penis person).

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 16:11

Yes, no inner goddesses here, Mridul. I'm not a person of faith, just a pretty tired and irritated woman.

PopperUppleton · 06/11/2020 16:42

I have an inner bitch troll from hell, which comes in handy Grin

beargrass · 06/11/2020 16:51

Here for the deletion message, as I watched another thread where someone had put their own information into the public domain (just like here) which went, even though it was all based on things anyone could easily see and where single sex exemptions apply in law. Not a dissimilar service, either. Vulnerable women etc etc.

OllyBJolly · 06/11/2020 17:06

Wonder if they are following this thread and enjoying the notoriety?

twitter.com/mridul_wadhwa/status/1324740116754112517?s=20

MichelleofzeResistance · 06/11/2020 17:17

That's such an upsetting post, Michelle. no female born service users had ever raised any issues with them

I pm'd the MNetter at the time to offer practical support as I was so upset to read about their situation, and the worst part for them of being not just dismissed in such a superior and derisive way, but hearing the airy denial that they'd ever said anything or the meeting in which they'd bared their hearts and tried so hard ever happened at all. The absolute erasure and outrageous deceit in it.

I won't name the MNetter as it's for her to speak here if she would like to, these are sensitive and very distressing matters for the women living them. But if she or anyone else who attended those meetings would like any practical support at any time I will be very glad to help in any way I can.

This is the problem with an ideology founded in the idea that the preferred selective reality of one person is valid above objective fact, and must be valued and protected by others whether they agree or not. It separates people into those entitled to state reality and those who are compelled to obey others in what they can say, feel and believe, and into categories of those whose needs and feelings matter, and those whose feelings and needs are subordinate to others and conditional on their agreement and permission. This is wrong. This is morally indefensible.

It then becomes wholly sex based in actual fact - although this is a fact not supposed to be mentioned. So in actual fact, female people's needs in a female refuge must be subordinate to the preference of male born staff to be able to identify as and be validated in a woman's role. And those male born people are able to hold positions of power that not only prevent those female people from speaking, but to create the selected reality that their needs and feelings aren't valid and don't exist anyway.

And this is why we have another MNetter who has lived rough for 18 months in a state of increasing desperation. And these male born people would say she deserves it for being unwilling to accept that a male born person matters more than she does.

It's sexism, working very well for the male born sex. This is it. This is all.

Cocothefirst · 06/11/2020 17:19

Absolutely horrific

gardenbird48 · 06/11/2020 17:21

good grief - the Goddess this person is invoking is the one that beheads people and tramples on their enemies - that is disturbing. I feel for those poor women who can't get away from this individual - I wonder if the rape victims using the shelter who are not comfortable in their presence are also included in this person's threats of aggression?

Butterer · 06/11/2020 17:22

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littlbrowndog · 06/11/2020 17:23

Oh heck that twitter pic

Beheading.

Butterer · 06/11/2020 17:26

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MichelleofzeResistance · 06/11/2020 17:29

You have to admire it. There's a veneer here under which male born people can be this openly, joyfully prejudiced against female born people and it's not only ok, it's highly fashionable and praiseworthy.

And do it openly while in a public role, speaking for and on behalf of the same class they're showing this degree of prejudice against and there's still a bunch of people buying into the marketing and cheering them for their wonderful progressiveness.

It's like the guy in the rubber pants for the NSPCC, it's just beyond comprehension.

MichelleofzeResistance · 06/11/2020 17:31

It would be nice if 'kindness wins' for all female people too as opposed to just the female people doing what male born people have told them is needed by the male people.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 06/11/2020 17:31

I actually came across a post on Facebook for a trauma group for women who had been a victim of sexual violence. I enquired further as a good friend of mine was regularly sexually assaulted by an ex partner and I thought it may be a good opportunity for her. There were two group options - one for mixed gender and one for 'womxn'. I enquired asking if the 'womxn' group was just for females and they kept brushing over that part, stating it would only have women in it. I pushed further as I know my friend wouldn't be able to open up if there were males there and only after pushing did they concede that there would be women, so anyone who identified as female, in attendance.

They also pointed me toward Rape Crisis Scotlands recommendation that such services for women should be inclusive of anyone who wishes to identify as a woman. It's unbelievable. So now we have a woman, a female, who is losing out on counselling sessions because they can't assure us that there won't be males there (and are actively encouraging males to attend female sessions whereby they will be opening up about sexual assaults). Unbelievable.

ArabellaScott · 06/11/2020 17:43

Oh, here we go with the sword imagery again. Hmm

Mridul Wadhwa and Rape Crisis Scotland.