BBC Bitsize - Pronouns

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I mean I'm not surprised but Bitesize is used by schools through the country as a supposed reliable, unbiased source of education material.

mobile.twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1319025713475952641?fbclid=IwAR0rTBD2j5PKOeTKvYSSX90c4RUDmJDo7Zg613qnDBXNaAncv3J8epYWLSQ

You can complain here:

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint

Or email your MP and cc MPs Safe Schools Alliance on info@safeschoolsallianceuk.

In the tweet thread there are some people already complaining. I'm not a defund the BBC kind of person but I can see why license fee layers are questioning what the BBC are doing with their money (there is a website 'BBC complaints' that's all about biased Brexit coverage).

So pleased they've taken the pronouns posts down. I hope there's been some good conversations happening about it at Bitesize and the wider BBC. More sunlight on this nonsense!

Wtf does it matter what class anyone here is? We're mostly women and we know what a woman is. And we know that teaching kids ze zir and zim is a load of nonsense.

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zp6ftrd

The tweet might have gone but the article is still there.

I hope they’ve realised the potential Safeguarding consequences in teaching children not to use correct words for things. And yes very much hope there will be some wider discussions at the BBC. They’ve been pedalling a lot of dangerous crap recently - like the awful First Day (?? Was that the trans kid drama), normalising children thinking they can change sex.

Pulp had some lyrically great stuff

It's TRA bingo:

Aligned with the right
Middle class privilege
White female privilege
Ferocious/hysterical/vile (delete as appropriate)
Etc

Keep reading from the script JJ

Haven't had the lesbians yet?

@testing987654321

Wtf does it matter what class anyone here is? We're mostly women and we know what a woman is. And we know that teaching kids ze zir and zim is a load of nonsense.

It doesn't matter to us, it was the poster saying that writing to MP's is frightfully middle class, just rubbed me up the wrong way. Like I'm too thick as a lower class citizen to take part in campaigns like that, and should be on the street rioting like a thug instead or something.

I think it's been nice seeing people talk about their backgrounds here. I sometimes feel like posters are way more intelligent than me and it can put me off posting my opinion sometimes (my own issue, I know, I'm extremely grateful to every woman that posts here), so it's nice to see there's a variety. We're all from different backgrounds with differing life experiences but we're united on this issue.

@testing987654321

Wtf does it matter what class anyone here is? We're mostly women and we know what a woman is. And we know that teaching kids ze zir and zim is a load of nonsense.

Class matters. We've already seen Kathleen Stock talking about breathing a sigh of relief at the elction of a Tory government. Well I doubt any single mums currently being socially exported from their homes due to the benefit cap breathed a sigh of relief. I doubt any disabled women desperately trying to get the benefits they and need and deserve breathed a sigh of relief, or the thousands of families stuck in B&Bs or the women on the streets. So we've already seen that some middle class gender critical activists are prepared to fuck over poor women in their quest to own the trans. I'm sure plenty would be equally prepared to fuck over LGB people or people of colour or working class women if a right wing potential government came along and promised to scrap the GRA and end trans inclusive policies.

And yes not everyone GC is middle class. But you surely can't deny the character and composition of much of the movement, you're always boasting about how many professionals you have and how easy it is to rise money. I think it's desperately sad watching people who say they can't afford it donating to crowdfunders for vanity court cases brought my middle class men like Glinner. Harry and Caspian that have far more to do with preseving their egos than defending women's rights. You'll' never be invited to the top table I'm afraid. You won't be on the podium. The middle clases will take your labour and your money, and you know what, if we do end up with a shitshow of a government like the one in Poland, they'll blame you for it as they either collaborate or quietly cover their tracks and any part they may have played in instigating the situation.

It's tra logic innit.

No one who is middle-class can be disabled, a single parent, or unemployed. As any fule kno.

And no one who is working class campaigns against sexism and misogyny.

So half of us don't need feminism, and the other half can't do it. Ta da!!

When actually women coming together, to talk, share experiences, empower themselves and each other, and fight, effectively, against misogyny, must be criticised, insulted and intimidated, because men are petrified of it.

Working class women don't have any money? And can't decide where to spend it? Dear God.

The bottom of the barrel not only had a sub-basement, it had an entire subterranean layer of molten misogyny.

So hang on, are you saying that to prevent bad people from getting elected we should shut up about the harm done to women and girls? Like, they only got elected because those nasty gc women would not shut up ?

Oh good, a like a bit of victim blaming.

I think it's desperately sad watching people who say they can't afford it donating to crowdfunders

I bet you do 🤣

There are plenty of working class women fighting sexism and misogyny. Plenty of working class women fighting for adequate housing, healthcare and benefits. Plenty of working class women fighting the funding cuts for women's services. None of them feel the need to cosy up to the likes of Truss, Davies and Nicholson, because those people are happy to destroy working class women's lives at the drop of a hat.

Like a ten year old:
Your mum's rubbish... Your house is a dump ... You're ugly / sad / old... nobody likes you... nobody will be your friend...

As the magnificent Maya Angelou told us: When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time

*HecatesCats
It's TRA bingo:
Aligned with the right

But also, mysteriously, managing to be "lefty". "middle class lefties" was the attempted insult.

@Butterer

What about my benefits money going to Ann Sinnotts appeal, *@jj1968* ? Would it be ok if I donated to Stonewall instead?

No fuck Stonewall. They're just the same thing on the other side. Join a claimant's groups instead.

We have been called a lot of things on here. I only wish I was middle class. Chance would be a fine thing.

the lives of middle aged, middle class non-LGBT white people tend to stay pretty much the same

nope, nope, nope, yup... 1 out of four ain't bad

What's that you are saying? Don't give money to Glinner, he is a big meanie and doesn't like you anyway? "You'll never be invited to the top table" what is this, the playground? As is often said for lesser reasons, go to fuck.

The only person I get cost with is DH thank you very much

However, you see your problem of wanting to treat people according to a narrow set of stereotypes is again limiting you

You see, people who don't see everyone in stereotypes can say I agree with say Liz on this issue and disagree with her on that,

Try living outside of stereotypes, it's most liberating

@jj1968

There are plenty of working class women fighting sexism and misogyny. Plenty of working class women fighting for adequate housing, healthcare and benefits. Plenty of working class women fighting the funding cuts for women's services. None of them feel the need to cosy up to the likes of Truss, Davies and Nicholson, because those people are happy to destroy working class women's lives at the drop of a hat.

Oh noes.

Are women from the wrong social class campaigning for the wrong stuff now?

I forget which rule it is, but of course, feminism must be useful to men, otherwise it's worthless.

@Butterer

You seem to have a real grudge against women professionals, btw. And automatically assuming they mean wealth, a certain class and a certain political viewpoint.

There are enough right wing middle class men and professionals in the TRA movement too - do you criticise them?

Did you not read my comments about Glinner, Harry and Caspian?

I think it's desperately sad watching people who say they can't afford it donating to crowdfunders for vanity court cases

Those 'vanity court cases' being your dismissive reframing of women and girls rights and equality.

Nuff said really.

There is zero point you trying the whole 'care about disabled/people in poverty/BAME people etc' - the entire political lobby you are speaking for has absolutely no care or regard about females with any of those needs, as they have repeatedly said and demonstrated. Unless, as you are also demonstrating, those females in someway prove useful to make use of in the name of furthering the political agenda of said lobby.

Or trying to dissuade female people from protesting the removal of their rights, equality, language, following of law in the UK, fairness under law, non politicisation of the police -

it is absolutely disgusting that women are having to fund out of their own pockets for these things in 2020.