BBC Bitsize - Pronouns

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I mean I'm not surprised but Bitesize is used by schools through the country as a supposed reliable, unbiased source of education material.

mobile.twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1319025713475952641?fbclid=IwAR0rTBD2j5PKOeTKvYSSX90c4RUDmJDo7Zg613qnDBXNaAncv3J8epYWLSQ

You can complain here:

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint

Or email your MP and cc MPs Safe Schools Alliance on info@safeschoolsallianceuk.

In the tweet thread there are some people already complaining. I'm not a defund the BBC kind of person but I can see why license fee layers are questioning what the BBC are doing with their money (there is a website 'BBC complaints' that's all about biased Brexit coverage).

Women's rights are under attack by transactivists. Gender ideology is homophobic and misogynistic at heart.

I might be wrong but I think Bitesize has taken down the post?

On twitter at least

JJ gender ideology, which codifies the female role as passive and submissive, even going so far as to assign transgender identities to females in history who showed any kind of desire to break the shackles of sexist oppression, is about as conservative as it gets.

JJ, this is not a left/right issue. It hasn’t been for some time, and to be honest, very little in the current political situation in the UK divides neatly in to left/right any more, this topic least of all.

It’s much more about authoritarianism, identity politics and increasing disengagement of political life from the lives of ordinary people. Just saying “euwww, Tory, next stop National Socialism” is so simplistic, it’s laughable.

Nobody here is anti LGBT for goodness sake. That’s not even worth dignifying with an answer, any,ore than your horrible smears about the Baroness.

I honestly don’t know why I’m bothering. Your contempt for the women here just shines through. There’s literally nothing I could say that would reach you, and that’s a real pity.

It could be said that trans activists are themselves helping the right with their total ideological capture of institutions and political parties with an untenable belief system and political agenda for many feminist women. Moderate and left wing women and male allies are completely politically homeless, and as in the US people are starting to feel hostile to identity politics as a luxury belief for many that ignores other issues they find important. This wasn't brought about by gender critical feminism.

Your contempt for the women here

contempt for women full stop, more like

I honestly don’t know why I’m bothering. Your contempt for the women here just shines through. There’s literally nothing I could say that would reach you, and that’s a real pity.

This. I'm responding solely to let in the sunlight for everyone to see.

@jj1968
I am middle class and centre right. I have spent decades in the City fighting to be taken seriously as a woman. Fighting to be paid the same as my male colleagues, being seen as technically able and rational; with a voice that deserves to be heard even though I am the only female in the room.
Then along come TRA wittering on about ladybrains and liking pink and sparkles is what makes a woman. All those bloody nauseating stereotypes that have held women back for years. It’s not progressive and it’s not #be kind: it is utterly regressive and deeply deeply conservative. It’s putting women back into the repressive gender roles that reinforce male privilege.
It is also deeply classist as working class women are most likely to be harmed by a regression back to stereotypes as the have least power to fight back. I have the sort of role that relies on qualifications and expertise so I have more weapons to fight my corner. I am wealthy enough to to take the risk of fighting and well educated enough to fight my corner.
Like many women on this board I am pushing back for all the women who can’t.

@Cocothefirst

Women's rights are under attack by transactivists. Gender ideology is homophobic and misogynistic at heart.

You are even using the lamguage of the extreme conservative right.

"The term first surfaced in the Vatican, in the mid-1990s, a time when sexual and reproductive rights were formally recognised by the UN, and when gender entered the lexicon of the global body. Gender equality was finally being protected and promoted by international legal obligations.

Advances in women’s rights threatened the Catholic church, which feared this would open the floodgates to abortion and promiscuous behaviour, and lead to the downfall of western civilisation.

By 1997 the notion of a “gender ideology” gained wider momentum with the publication of Dale O’Leary’s The Gender Agenda. This influential text – reportedly read by members of the Vatican – maintained that substituting the word “sex” with “gender”, in international spaces like the UN was part of a global feminist scheme to dissolve the family and remake society.

By the early 2000s, a transnational movement agitating against “gender ideology” was strengthening. And not just in Catholic Poland, Brazil and Ireland, but in reliably progressive countries like Germany and France."

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/mar/30/gender-ideology-big-bogus-and-coming-to-a-fear-campaign-near-you

Why does everyone assume that all people who fight for women and girls are middle class? And why do they say it as an insult?

I grew up in a tower block with a drug addicted mother on a drug riddled estate.

I only got an A in English Lit (thanks to my nan making me love books) and failed everything else, I've got a dead end, low paid job and probably no hope in hell of ever getting into Uni. I'm looking into going back to college at age 27 to get grades I should have achieved aged 16.

I was also born (and still live) in a city that was voted the 2nd worst city in the UK, and came fifth on a worst cities in the world list.

I do stick my pinky finger out when I sip my tea, though. Middle class fam, innit

No, different groups often have conflicting needs, and anyone who doesn’t live in a privileged bubble acknowledges that. The world is messy and Religious groups have often protected and cared for those with whom they fundamentally disagree.

Absolutely! I recently posted on MN something about my work with young Muslim refugees in Germany. What I didn't say was that the project was financed almost entirely by the "Evangelic' (Protestant) church in Germany, and very generously so. There was not the slightest attempt to convert them.

I realise my post above may sound like a pity party, I was just trying to point out that women's rights affect every woman, from every walk of life. It's not a class issue.

Fancy a lower class dreg of society like me writing to an MP 😱 I bet Liz Truss decontaminated her office and ran an anti virus scan once she read my email.

@SmallPug

I might be wrong but I think Bitesize has taken down the post?

It's gone from Facebook too.

I’m not sure that JJ can see your posts, yourhair. Maybe they’re covered in some sort of Hitchhikers Guide “someone else’s problem” field?

Could you start again I am well and truely lost.

Are you saying that anyone who is gender critical is comfortably middle class, no empathy and , havinh always been middle class , have never experienced hardships such as hum, mould in the council house, mass unemployment because the government on London wanted to squash the north, ...trying not to launch into common people here!

In that case, oops, stop stereotyping people and you might make better points

I'm an atheist who grew up on a council estate. Thatcher fucked over my family and we grew up poor.

My close family includes gay and trans people.

You don't know anything about the women here. You're assuming we're all straight, white and middle class. You'd be wrong on all three counts.

You can get to fuck with your unpleasant insinuations and veiled threats. You don't know us. But most of all you'll never be us which really pisses you off.

@SophocIestheFox

I’m not sure that JJ can see your posts, yourhair. Maybe they’re covered in some sort of Hitchhikers Guide “someone else’s problem” field?

Like that selective hearing thing kids do, isn't it? Call them down from upstairs because they're in trouble-can't hear you. Call them down because you've got them some sweets, and they're in front of you before you've finished your sentence.

Nobody middle-class is disabled or unemployed, and they don't bring up children on their own?

Fuck a stoat sideways, what century are you living in? Come to that, what planet?

I think we need to go back a few decades and try to define "classes in England" again; is;t there some system using the alphabet for that, these days?

I also think you badly need to sort out your left from your right -- or else please don't ever drive, you'd be a menace on the road.

@SmallPug

I might be wrong but I think Bitesize has taken down the post?

It looks like it.

They remembered International Stutterers awareness too, eventually.

I'm non-white (is that the same as non-trans), non-English, an immigrant from a very poor Third World country (basically Windrush generation), took care of a seriously disabled (helpless as a baby in nappies) husband for many years. For a few years, was a single mother. My father was deeply, seriously Marxist. I pulled myself up by the bootstraps...

But oh no! I'm middle class! don't know hardship AT ALL! I have no empathy AT ALL! /sarcasm

jj you know NOTHING about the women here. Nothing at all.

How dare this " right wing extremist middle class " woman object to allowing male prisoners in female prisons.!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/female-prisoner-takes-government-to-court-after-alleged-assault-by-transgender-inmate-n5wtg2nf7?shareToken=f2e99b28b2f234eb7e84b0c4484e7254

Grew up in a Northern seaside town that is regularly used on the news as an example of 'deprivation'. My parents never went to university. My mum is a care-worker and my dad works in hospitality. They should really be retiring now but they can't afford to live on their meager pensions. My dad is also still waiting (going on 2 years now) for a nerve to be severed to stop the debilitating pain in his hip.

I hope to live beyond 70 so don't think I count as middle-aged?

Can I still be GC???

trying not to launch into common people here!
Great song! Though I think misshapes is underrated