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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do any of you dress etc 'gender free' or have tried to in the past?

353 replies

SoulofanAggron · 21/10/2020 12:23

I'm going a bit more 'gender free' in my look. Did try it once years ago for a couple of years. Have any of you tried it/done it?

I know a lot of women have quite a 'gender free' look anyway.

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NoSquirrels · 21/10/2020 12:50

Is gender free the same as unisex?

I’ve got a hoodie & jeans on today, plus trainers. As does my DH. His hoodie is geeky, mine has a slogan on. We could swap (if we were the same size) but his isn’t to my taste and I don’t think he’d wear the slogan on mine.

randomsabreuse · 21/10/2020 12:54

I'm curvy, definitely female and one of my favourite "tops" is a cashmere mix polo neck jumper my parents bought for DH.

Doesn't make me gender free, just pragmatic - it drapes really nicely and the man sized neck is way more comfortable than my own jumpers.

movingonup20 · 21/10/2020 12:57

I'm wearing a hoody and jeans, is that gender free? (Both bought from ladies dept though my docs are technically boys ones.)

mocktail · 21/10/2020 12:57

I wear women's clothes or occasionally kids sizes. I couldn't wear men's clothes as they'd be too long. I pretty much live in jeans and jumpers so fairly unisex I guess although they're not the same cut of jeans a man would wear. Does any of this count as gender free?!

My daughters wear boys' clothes as often as girls' clothes, but not to make a statement - just because they're the clothes they like.

acatcalledjohn · 21/10/2020 12:58

When you start tailoring your outfits to the gender spectrum you are perpetuating gender stereotypes, which is inherently not genderfree.

FloralBunting · 21/10/2020 12:58

I am wearing wellies, a rah rah skirt, shirt and tie with a body warmer and a trilby with a purple ribbon.

I feel this expresses my inner essence appropriately.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 21/10/2020 12:59

The problem is that I wear clothes. Clothes I like. Clothes that are appropriate to whatever I am doing.

Are my t shirts gender free or are they just t shirts?

Blouses are just shirts cut to fit the female shape. Are they gender free?

Trousers? Again cut differently to meet the needs of male and female bodies. Are they gender free?

Skirts... ah? I see. Gendered. By societal mores. But I like them sometimes. I have had boyfriends who wore them better than I did... but again, they were cut differently to fit their body shape (I know as I was the one who made or modified them)

Dresses too!

I wear what I feel best in, what I like. That society genders them means little to me. It would mean as little if men decided to design, make and wear male body appropriate feminine clothing. It's been done before in the UK. It will be done again. No big deal! Society would adjust!

BlueThistles · 21/10/2020 12:59

NO, I wear a Bra and Knickers every single day, because I need the Bra, and the Knickers help me keep my Tena lady in the right place, and prevent my being arrested for indecent exposure. Flowers

FairFridaythe13th · 21/10/2020 13:00

But clothes have to fit the sex of the person, otherwise trousers wont fit properly.

DeliciouslyFemale · 21/10/2020 13:00

Gender free clothing only exists if you believe in the sexist stereotypical gender woo woo. I always wear walking boots, jeans, plain tee shirt and usually a hoodie or occasionally a jumper. What ‘gender’ are they designed for? Are they only suitable for men or women to wear? I wear what makes me comfortable, but it has absolutely no effect on my sex, because absolutely nothing can change that. If others want to play dress up and believe that doing so has some magical effect on the sex of their body, rock on. Just don’t expect me to believe it.

FairFridaythe13th · 21/10/2020 13:02

Blouses are just shirts cut to fit the female shape. Are they gender free? - Morrissey used to buy his 'shirts' from the womenswear department in BHS.

Anotherdayanotherdisappointmen · 21/10/2020 13:02

Yes to clothes with pockets and I'm also an hourglass so I do sometimes wear fitted stuff but only because I cant pull off loose clothing.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 21/10/2020 13:05

Good for Morrissey. That doesn't mean that they were made to fit his body, just that he liked the fabric and/or the difference in fit.

He made his choice, just like we all should, free of gender woo! Gender Bending is, as always, absolutely fine. It's the attempt at prescription that isn't.

FairFridaythe13th · 21/10/2020 13:08

He was a pop star though, so...

I've always just picked up what I fancied - a big fan of Flip in my youth and men's suits (of course they needed altering to fit my girly body). I usually but men's jumpers because the quality in high st stores is pretty good.

Fatted · 21/10/2020 13:08

I'm also confused by the term gender free. I work with a female colleague who considers herself to dress 'gender free'. I wear a lot of vintage style dresses, particularly to work. She told me once I would be taken more seriously by men in the work place if I dressed gender free (read 'like a man'). She completely missed the fact that I should be taken seriously regardless of what I look like.

OrangeLeavesYellowLeaves · 21/10/2020 13:10

I should move to the Netherlands.

acatcalledjohn · 21/10/2020 13:10

@FairFridaythe13th

But clothes have to fit the sex of the person, otherwise trousers wont fit properly.

Oh, so if it's in the women's department the same item of clothing will fit and suit anyone with a vagina, regardless of their body type? Apple, pear, hourglass, straight.

Clothes have to fit the person, not the sex.

Justforphoto · 21/10/2020 13:14

I live in jeans and jumpers or tshirts, there is nothing intrinsically female about them so does that class as gender free or not?

DorisLessingsLesson · 21/10/2020 13:15

I'm obviously old-fashioned because I'd just call it wearing clothes rather than dressing gender-free Confused
I've worn lots of trousers, blazers, waistcoats (and not just in my Bros phase). I've worn every colour. I've worn kilts, skirts, dresses.
How tiring it must be to live in a time or place where you actually think about your clothes having a gender and being free of it! Do people not realise that the big push on colour coding dressing was a marketing ploy?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 21/10/2020 13:15

Well, as a clothes maker I can tell you that you are wrong... whilst being blindingly obvious!

There are measurements and adjustments to most garments that all women and no men, or all men and no women, will need (as a class). Sex based physiological differences exist and well fitted clothing (that doesn't mean close fitting) will accommodate those differences.

Changes to fit the individual are less cumbersome than changes to fit sexed physiology.

Waist lines, crotch adjustments, full bust adjustments etc are based on physiology... The size of those adjustments are individual!

FairFridaythe13th · 21/10/2020 13:17

But generally, womens waists are smaller and higher than mens for example.

I was quite a slim teen but still needed mens trousers to be tailored (originally made to fit a man of a similar height and build to me). Women tend to have a smaller ribcage under their chest. So you get variations in women's clothes (ie length) so I cant wear petit and usually wear 'long' trousers.

Egghead68 · 21/10/2020 13:18

What is gender-free clothing? Why would you do this?

I wear clothes that fit me. They wouldn’t fit a man as their proportions are different.

Is your body shape “gender-free”?

diplodocusinermine · 21/10/2020 13:22

Not a conscious decision but have worn nothing but jeans and t-shirts or rugby shirts and flat lace up shoes for over a decade. Zero interest in clothes/fashion. Most of my tops are men's because I am not small. It's not hard..........

dolphinpose · 21/10/2020 13:22

I don't know what it means. I wear jeans cut for women because I am a woman and shaped like one. I wear bras because ditto. Same with shirts - the ones that have darts around the chest and shorter sleeves fit me. I rarely wear dresses.

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 21/10/2020 13:23

I dress mainly in jeans (my own), T-Shirts (my own) and jumpers (by husband’s). Then I have a unisex winter jacket and trainers.

Am I gender free? Or maybe I am a man? The latter would be confusing for my husband and my children, so I hope not.