Joe Biden issues new statement on the transgender debate

[ripx4nutmeg]

In a Q&A he said he'll reverse all 'anti trans' executive orders if he becomes president. He revealed again that he doesn't really know anything about the trans debate but implied he will still give campaigners everything they want twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1316913590620852224?s=20

Ah, silly me
I forgot that single issue voters do not care about Climate Change.

Toodle pip.

And as per the Hillary fiasco, the Dems come on here and shout down any debate as "oh no, you are not allowed to consider your personal priorities, you must just vote for us and we will do what is best" - way to talk down to the people. And calling us Trump trolls? Every time I come on MN to debate this issue, I am called a Trump troll. If you honestly knew my personal politics and my history of living in the US (many, many years ago) you would put me to the far left of the woo woo dems (except on issues of Trans) and International Trade.

@ListeningQuietly, I would urge you to brush up on your reading of "How to Win Friends and Influence People", particularly if your job over the next few weeks is to tackle "internet trolling for Trump".

This thread was so clearly started by the Trump trolls hoping to split the left

Not sure about that one. OP - if same on twitter - is vocal on women’s rights.

There is a difference between the US and UK in the legal rights of women and transpeople.

The TWAW mantra is the destruction of women’s rights - Particularly ones enshrined in the UK. It heralds the inability to define or discuss sex-based oppression and develop solutions. It prevents women and girls from organising as sex-based political entities to campaign for the economic, political and social parity for women and girls. It removes the right to dignity, privacy, safety and equity of access afforded by single sex provision.

Trump and the Republicans openly want to remove women’s rights. The Democrats - in their different way - are also openly campaigning for this. They are either covering it up or are just too thick to notice obvious consequences the latter wouldn’t surprise me based on many GB politicians from the left.

I am not sure if the Democrats count as the left as per the UK definition. But sure as hell -the left - who are swinging right behind TWAW - ain’t no friend to women.

Douche or shit sandwich has it.

I forgot that single issue voters do not care about Climate Change

Yeah, you did. It’s not very relevant to either voting base at the moment.

gurufloof thanks for telling us about Dawn Wilcox who's counting dead women in the US.

@womencountusa has been deactivated on twitter - don't suppose we know why?

On no fucking planet is Trump more pro women's rights than Biden. Grab them by the pussy. Do what you want to them? Come on!

Ah the If-you-criticise-Biden-you-must-be-a-Trump-troll argument, and we're only on page 3.

I can confirm that the first time it's levelled against you, it stings. And then you stop caring.

Interesting link Bovary put up above.

Essentially Joe Biden 's sons laptop fell into the hands of the New York Post.
There were photos of him taking drugs, and another potential " Buttery Male " scare about emails regarding dodgy deals with China and Ukraine.
Twitter and Facebook slammed all links from the NY Post immediately.

Whatever you think about Trump, that would NOT have happened to a mainstream news source with dirt on the Trump side.

It is worrying, given the reach those tech giants have.

@nauticant

And it’s overlooked that Biden was voted in fairly by the Democratic base. That’s who many wanted.

There are many people who would vote for Trump. On the other side there are many people who would vote for someone who isn't Trump. I suspect that the number of people who would vote for Biden as Biden is rather low.

I don't think this is true. Even Clinton who was a very unpopular candidate convincingly won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College - as a result of Trump taking the likes of Florida Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania by very narrow margins.

The sitting candidate has a huge advantage in US Presidential elections and tend to win a second term as a result - certainly over the last 50 years but nonetheless the Dems actually have to win over a rather small number of moderate Republicans. Its precisely because Biden is the candidate - rather than say Sanders - that the likes of The Lincoln Project who are themselves run by Republicans - are campaigning in favour of Biden and calling on other GOP supporters to do the same.

If the Dems win it will be precisely because Biden is the candidate

@ripx4nutmeg

I think they're the two worst candidates I've seen out of every US election I've either followed or read about.

But to quote Gad Saad: 'You have one candidate who lies about the size of his penis because he's a narcissist, while the other lies that a man with a penis can be a woman because that's what his party supports'.

One is more of a threat to women, children, free speech, humour and science than the other, even if he doesn't realise that he is

And this is how 'GC' feminism is radicalised to the far right.

When you look at Trump Vs Biden and think that human rights for a tiny proportion of the population is more worrying than the continuation of anti-woman and anti-science policies of Trump.

When you think that it's fine to be on the same side as Tommy Robinson.

When you think that a country overturning Roe Vs Wade will somehow magically allow abortion in federal legislation, because you don't want to admit that denying women healthcare is an acceptable cost of denying transwomen everything.

Voting is a chess move not a valentine. Maybe you should give Rebecca Solnit another go, instead of taking your feminism from fascist-leaning men?

@7Days

Interesting link Bovary put up above.

Essentially Joe Biden 's sons laptop fell into the hands of the New York Post.
There were photos of him taking drugs, and another potential " Buttery Male " scare about emails regarding dodgy deals with China and Ukraine.
Twitter and Facebook slammed all links from the NY Post immediately.

Whatever you think about Trump, that would NOT have happened to a mainstream news source with dirt on the Trump side.

It is worrying, given the reach those tech giants have.

You're really going to believe an unsubstantiated story from Rudy Giuliani? At this stage of the race? Mimicking the timing of the Clinton emails that turned out to be absolutely nothing? Have you learned nothing?

@pequini

On no fucking planet is Trump more pro women's rights than Biden. Grab them by the pussy. Do what you want to them? Come on!

Do you not believe Tara Reade, then?

That's not quite true DameFanny.
Human rights for a tiny proportion of the population is a good thing, which everyone supports.
But lots not that simple is it, it is about truth and science, weakness in the face of aggression, telling convenient lies, disregarding the rights of one group when put up against the other group.

Calling everyone alt right or phone or whatever is a tactic that has a shelf life - I wish the Dems would see that and put their feet properly on the ground and aim to actually solve some problems.

Well these troll hunters are doing a great job of pushing me towards Trump - if only I had a vote

Missed your last, DameFanny.

The question is, are the allegations true?
Not, I don't like who said it.
Is it true that massive tech giants are 'interfering' ? What gives them the right, how do they know?
Again, it's not about my team says this, therefore I believe.

@7Days

Interesting link Bovary put up above.

Essentially Joe Biden 's sons laptop fell into the hands of the New York Post.
There were photos of him taking drugs, and another potential " Buttery Male " scare about emails regarding dodgy deals with China and Ukraine.
Twitter and Facebook slammed all links from the NY Post immediately.

Whatever you think about Trump, that would NOT have happened to a mainstream news source with dirt on the Trump side.

It is worrying, given the reach those tech giants have.

Absolutely. Tech is not neutral and that is a direct threat to freedom of speech. It is interesting that some posters are denouncing the OP for posting on this. The people who want to shut down debate because they demand complete narrative control are on display. They need to be challenged and expecting people to obediently sit down and shut up isn't going to cut it. Neither is calling people 'trolls ' for refusing to parrot Dem talking points.

Biden's answer to that mother was a mess, incoherent and rambling. Ugh. What a choice between the two.

In terms of the murder rate in the USA, the murder rates for 2019 have just been published.

According to statista.com, 2991 females were murdered in 2019 and of those the highest rate is for girl babies under 1, which is shocking.

why does the system produce such awful candidates?

I'm sick and tired of the Trump Biden show. Democracy has reached the event horizon in a matter of years we'll be in the black hole.
The left has become obsessed with an unobtainable idea of perfect social justice, it's a darn sight easier than actually managing fairness between different factions and groups in the real world. It's infantile and I blame them for Trump.

@7Days

Missed your last, DameFanny.

The question is, are the allegations true?
Not, I don't like who said it.
Is it true that massive tech giants are 'interfering' ? What gives them the right, how do they know?
Again, it's not about my team says this, therefore I believe.

Surely the first rule of journalism is "how reliable is the source"

The second rule is when you learn that the source of the story is Russia you verify the story before running it.

You certainly don't run rumours without an investigation which is what Giuliani was trying to provoke. Damage Biden before the election because who will care if it is untrue afterwards. The world has at least learned something from 2016

Responsible publishing from Twitter and Facebook

This is why I avoid this board these days. It's dead to women's rights, dead to discussion of what the patriarchy as actually up to. Solely focused on a tiny proportion of society more likely to be victim than abuser. And every single fucking question about women's rights, about actual abuses of women's rights and abuse of women is met with well there's no point fighting for women's rights if we can't exactly define what a woman is. Someone on here actually said that to me once, and if any of you had any fucking sense or shame you would have flamed up at the sheer shittiness of that statement but no, you're all happy to sit here discussing ways to pretend that transwomen are all predators and transmen are all misguided victims and that intersex people are all very unfortunate but really not the point and ignore the actual violations of women's rights happening right under your noses.

Couldn't be more patriarchal if you tried.

Well how do you fight for women's rights if you can't define what a woman is?
Can you answer the question?

I see your point Sedlescombe , but it looks very one sided. It would NOT have happened to a Trump scandal - I dont think anyone could reasonably argue that. Those high minded ideals would have been out the window if it was Trumps son.

It's that type of unfairness and one sidedness that irks US voters, and increases support for Trump.
Imo.

I dont think anyone could reasonably argue that. Those high minded ideals would have been out the window if it was Trumps son. It's that type of unfairness and one sidedness that irks US voters, and increases support for Trump.Imo

Precisely. Tech is dominated by a narrow, insular political orthodoxy. It is not neutral and its media control makes legacy media barons look parochial. This is an issue about freedom of speech. But of course freedom of speech means nothing to those who want complete narrative control and whose tactics are to demonize anyone who won't obediently submit to increasingly totalitarian demands. It's the same old playlist. Accuse people of 'crimes of adjacency,' make unsubstantiated accusations and try to insinuate that you are a Nazi if you are not left wing. And they wonder why every election result leaves them in shock and awe....