Brighton TRAs bullying female small business owner

[SapphosRock]

Urgh. This is happening in my home town and it’s shit.

Happy Maki is a small, vegan cafe and takeaway. It’s a very ethical business. All about sustainability and green energy. They plant a tree and feed a child for each wrap made. It’s a gift economy and the food is free with a suggested donation. All very hippy. You get the idea.

A FTM trans person approached the female owner of Happy Maki and asked for support in fundraising for their top surgery. I believe they wanted a poster in the window asking for money. The owner refused. When pressed the owner said it was against her religious beliefs - she is a follower of the Divine Truth which admittedly sounds a bit ‘out there’ but not entirely unexpected given the nature of her business.

Anyway the TRAs have really gone to town and are posting in every Brighton based Facebook group, Instagram and Twitter accusing the owner of Transphobia and calling for her to apologise:

twitter.com/makiunhappy/status/1314261939833446400?s=21

They seem to be getting a lot of support and gaining a lot of traction too with many saying they are now going to boycott the business.

I’m upset about this for a lot of reasons. Obviously the female owner being bullied and harassed in this way and them encouraging people to email her. The lovely takeaway losing business. It’s also pretty tone deaf to attack the hospitality sector in the midst of a global pandemic for not supporting one individual’s elective, life changing surgery.

Anyway, the reason I’m posting here is in solidarity with the owner Anna. And if any of you lovely lot are nearby then consider getting a Happy Maki takeaway. The food is delicious and I’m sure they could do with some support right now.

www.happymaki.co.uk

The great think about having the constant ranting from jj, is fact that the thread is constantly bumped, attracting more readers. They can see how a young woman is being bullied and harassed by a bunch of individuals who claim to be so ‘vulnerable’. They can see the true face of trans activism. We’re going to need a bigger mountain ⛰

Think = thing

I found it interesting to note that the 7 employees comprised the assistant manager, 5 employees (until recently employed) and 1 previous employee (who failed their trial, left their employment after receiving a written warning, and who some current employees have had to block to prevent ongoing harassment).

Together with the fact the email response declining a request to put the poster up was sent in February - and it is now October - it all sounds quite dodgy to me.....

And what pisses me off, JJ. Is that we are constantly told that having any preference related to the sex of a partner is genital fetishism and transphobic.

Until all of a sudden it can be used to shit on a woman and then all of a sudden defending sex based preferences is very very important.

Godawful hypocritical behaviour.

@jj1968

This is precisely why bisexual people (and trans people) get pissed off. If she'd been making comments in the workplace about gay and lesbian people being not real, or traumatised, or possessed by malevolent spirits there'd be outrage, and rightly so. But when it happes to bi people it's all well its not really biphobic, what does biphobia even mean, and anyway they weren't really complaining about biphobia is was all about the trans and everyone knows being shitty to them is fine.

All the hyperbole in the world is meaningless, when you can't define the words you are using to spout it.

You can't define lesbian, you can't define bisexual, you can't define biphobia.

There is no word in your strange language for the sexual orientation you are so gleefully trying to leverage. In fact, you disagree profoundly with sexual orientation.

It's like a pacifist backing up their argument for world peace by holding a grenade.

And your defence is that just because I cant define any of the words I'm using, and they have no meaning in the ideology I'm defending, doesn't mean I'm not right to use them.

It's like Cutted Up Pear on half a hundredweight of red Smarties. 🤣

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I think I'll have to go through and read this all again as I'm not sure I've got this right:
Has it been said by staff that the owner was saying things before the email as has been suggested?
Was Henry known to the staff prior to the email?
Did they encourage the sending of the email?
None of that adds up if so

@NellieElly

I found it interesting to note that the 7 employees comprised the assistant manager, 5 employees (until recently employed) and 1 previous employee (who failed their trial, left their employment after receiving a written warning, and who some current employees have had to block to prevent ongoing harassment).

Together with the fact the email response declining a request to put the poster up was sent in February - and it is now October - it all sounds quite dodgy to me.....

That does sound dodgy

Thing is I was quite often very frustrated by sapphos

I agreed Or sympathised with a fair bit of her viewpoint but there was always the odd thing that i just couldn’t Get my head round or pissed me off

But she has always tried, and if im honest i am much happier taking her word for what is happening to Anna...precisely because sapphos is Relentless (in the same way of a lot of FWR posters are) when she is fighting For what she believes is an injustice

And from what I remember...she also doesn’t lie

@DeliciouslyFemale

The first page of this thread has people ranting about extortion, homegrown terrorism and a suggestion the police should be called on these 'gangsters' over a fairly mild letter from former workers to their employer. I fully support sunlight. I'm sure people can draw their own conclusions about the so-called reasonable concerns of the GC movement after reading some of the ridiculous authoritarian hyperbole on this thread.

Thanks for the bump, jj. 😁

Let's do it again.

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There are currently no known outstanding effects for the Theft Act 1968, Section 21.

21Blackmail.

(1)A person is guilty of blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief—

(a)that he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and

(b)that the use of the menaces is a proper means of reinforcing the demand.

(2)The nature of the act or omission demanded is immaterial, and it is also immaterial whether the menaces relate to action to be taken by the person making the demand.

(3)A person guilty of blackmail shall on conviction on indictment be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

Or.....the UK Government is saying the same as everyday Mumsnetters.

Ummmeeerrrrr

@jj1968

This is precisely why bisexual people (and trans people) get pissed off. If she'd been making comments in the workplace about gay and lesbian people being not real, or traumatised, or possessed by malevolent spirits there'd be outrage, and rightly so. But when it happes to bi people it's all well its not really biphobic, what does biphobia even mean, and anyway they weren't really complaining about biphobia is was all about the trans and everyone knows being shitty to them is fine.

You haven't managed to express any outrage about people saying monosexuality is the result of trauma.

Why so silent?

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Sapphos, next time you're in the café, maybe you could let Anna know that she potentially has grounds for a legal complaint.

Because I strongly suspect there is far more going on behind the scenes than we are privy to.

And if anyone of those muppets are accusing her of biphobia, perhaps she get a definition from them.

Reflect you capitalist paper tiger running dog, reflect!!

Really, Rufus?
All the personal attacks on here you just let slide and don't notice, but one retaliation from the poster with a numpty and you suddenly sit up?
Really?

Ummmeeerrrrr