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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

what's happening in Rosie Duffield's office?

141 replies

CarolJenkyns · 14/10/2020 16:30

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/10/14/rosie-duffield-mp-labour-transphobia-row-staffer-quits-resignation-canterbury/

Not sure what to make of this to be honest.

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InflamatoryWrit · 14/10/2020 22:38

Totes

EvenSupposing · 14/10/2020 22:41

I thought it an ironic rhetorical flourish Grin

Impatiens · 14/10/2020 22:42

Wow. 'Hollow succour.'

P**K News just gone right up in my estimation (not hard to do from a subterranean start but, still..)

FloralBunting · 14/10/2020 22:42

Let's define radical feminist again, shall we? What does this wordsmith think the root of women's oppression is? Given that the 'radical' in radfem comes from radix which is Latin for root.

Does she maybe think our oppression is because we aren't kind enough? Or that the root is maybe our femininity? What is it that all women share regardless of culture, socialization, personality, preferences, politics, sexuality etc?

It's our sex. That's it. Our physical bodies make us women, and it is the disadvantages of our biology that form the basis of our sex being limited by gendered expectations of the world around us.

That's why we challenge those expectations, that's why we campaign for accommodations and legal rights to spaces for privacy, dignity and safety, away from the other sex who share none of those disadvantages.

Radical feminist doesn't mean extremely feminist. It's not a statement about how very committed we are to feminism.

Words matter, people, and they actually mean things. That's what language is.

KnightsofColumbusThatHurt · 14/10/2020 22:47

Radical feminist doesn't mean extremely feminist. It's not a statement about how very committed we are to feminism.

Yes, I'm pretty sure this is what some people think it means!

ChattyLion · 14/10/2020 22:49

How about, every time this type of shite comes out, we email or send her a card to say thanks/Rise up women/keep up the good work or whatever, so she knows real women appreciate her whatever Prick News or whoever else including from her own party Hmm is doing to try to take her reputation down.

raddledoldmisanthropist · 14/10/2020 22:52

She might've reached the lofty heights of E L James.

Oh, I know shit writers can sell (I once read a Tom Clancy book out of curiosity) but her workwomanlike prose is fine for kids books.

She gets better as the series goes on and many of the other important aspects of good writing (sense of place, character, plot) are great. Kids like reading Rowling and like reading because if Rowling- I think that's plenty.

Annasgirl · 14/10/2020 22:55

@PoorMansPaulaRadcliffe

Well, she's a better writer than Rowling, allowing that that's obviously a very low bar.
Confused
EvenSupposing · 14/10/2020 23:02

Rowling's magic is her world building and the flood of creative ideas she has. Her descriptions of Hogwarts are incredible because she has so many amazing ideas on every page. A lesser writer would make a book or even a series out of the Room or Requirement or the Mirror of Erised but she just keeps lobbing them in. She does that one thing extraordinarily well in those books.

She also writes a compelling character and her humanity is a huge strength but it's the imagination that has earned her her billions.

And I'm loving Helen's work with PN as another kind of art form exemplified. Grin

PearPickingPorky · 14/10/2020 23:22

@PoorMansPaulaRadcliffe

Well, she's a better writer than Rowling, allowing that that's obviously a very low bar.
If she was a better writer than Rowling, she would be working in Rosie Duffield's office, quiting her job because only women have a cervix, and giving interviews to Penis News.
EvenSupposing · 14/10/2020 23:39

@FloralBunting

Let's define radical feminist again, shall we? What does this wordsmith think the root of women's oppression is? Given that the 'radical' in radfem comes from radix which is Latin for root.

Does she maybe think our oppression is because we aren't kind enough? Or that the root is maybe our femininity? What is it that all women share regardless of culture, socialization, personality, preferences, politics, sexuality etc?

It's our sex. That's it. Our physical bodies make us women, and it is the disadvantages of our biology that form the basis of our sex being limited by gendered expectations of the world around us.

That's why we challenge those expectations, that's why we campaign for accommodations and legal rights to spaces for privacy, dignity and safety, away from the other sex who share none of those disadvantages.

Radical feminist doesn't mean extremely feminist. It's not a statement about how very committed we are to feminism.

Words matter, people, and they actually mean things. That's what language is.

Do you think she means 'militant feminist'? I do think people mix them up. Confused
FloralBunting · 14/10/2020 23:41

Possibly, but I doubt she's a militant feminist either.

Strident, perhaps? Grin

EvenSupposing · 14/10/2020 23:53

Hectoring? Grin

FloralBunting · 15/10/2020 00:03

I'm going to plump for 'Unconvincing' as my final choice.

Kantastic · 15/10/2020 00:55

I've heard the PN crew are desperate for traffic and I really wouldn't put it past them to start threads on here to boost it.

Practically the only people who bother with them are GC feminists diligently correcting their lies.

So here's an archive for anyone who cares about whatever this person is talking about: archive.is/Bc8lN

Kantastic · 15/10/2020 01:03

also if we are talking fancy words and Pink News, did anyone see this from Helen Lewis?

I do not resile from my opinion that book reviews are generally better if the author has read the book.

Grin the Pink News "radfem" who totally exists could stand to take a few writing lessons from Helen.

EmpressJKRowlingSpartacus · 15/10/2020 04:52

I posted my thank you card to Rosie Duffield yesterday. I hope she gets a lot of them.

Cwenthryth · 15/10/2020 06:16

It’s just occurred to me that would these staffers be the ones that would read and filter her emails?

So they must be aware of the hate and threats she is very likely receiving, as well as the emails of support from us?

ValancyRedfern · 15/10/2020 06:58

I have a young lesbian friend who is the strongest woke trans ally I know. Constantly sends me Pink News articles and Mermaids puff pieces. She has swallowed the whole thing whole. She would never sleep with someone with a penis but the penny hasn't dropped. So this seems perfectly believable to me.

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BovaryX · 15/10/2020 09:23

@Harmarsuperstar

Her "belief" that only women have cervixes? It's not so much a belief, as a cold hard verifiable fact.
One of the things about woke is its belief 'feelings' transcend everything else. Including external reality. So if someone's 'feelings' are offended by external reality and if they are looking at the advancement of their career in the woke landscape, resignation is a smart move. They can claim moral outrage and moral righteousness while clearly identifying with what they consider the dominant view in Labour circles.
Cocothefirst · 15/10/2020 09:29

@GCAcademic

Oh look, another new poster has signed up to link Prick News and ask a question with breathless innocence. How unprecedented.
Gosh, what a startling coincidence.
EmpressJKRowlingSpartacus · 15/10/2020 09:33

It does somewhat remind me of the new posters who say “I’m as GC as they come, but...” or “I’m a big fan of Posie, but...”

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 11:12

When training to be a therapist, the expression went - it’s all bullshit before the ‘but’

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