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Kelly-Jay currently being arrested in Leeds

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BettyFloop · 20/09/2020 12:31

She's live streaming on YT

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Cailleach1 · 21/09/2020 09:54

To paraphrase, at around 6 mins.

Policeman what I could understand. Around There's been some communication with the people who've organised this, and they've at no point said they're a political organisation ...... (couldn't understand a bit)........and that is not their stated aim on their website ?

Kellie It's me. I'm the organiser.

CaraDuneRedux · 21/09/2020 09:57

Claire must have told the police that it wasn't a political protest - hence the police being able to state that they broke the rule of six. Presumably Claire stated that to avoid similar to the JKR poster decision, but it was a bit of an own goal.

How convenient that you have some mysterious telepathic link with Claire and thus know exactly what she must have told them. Because of course that must be exactly what happened.

Hmm

Oh no, hang on a minute, you don't, you're just making shit up!

Talk about grasping at straws.

Cascade220 · 21/09/2020 09:58

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Cailleach1 · 21/09/2020 10:01

Ok, slight difference from the organisers having said they're (Standing for Women or Leeds Resisters) not a political organisation.

In fact, it is the police who have interpreted their cause/aims as not being political and deemed they are not a political organisation.

Dances · 21/09/2020 10:03

mobile.twitter.com/LesleySemmens/status/1307663087026286593

This is really bad shit from the police

CaraDuneRedux · 21/09/2020 10:03

That's a fabulous blog post, Spartacus. I haven't come across Rukhsana Sukhan, but I see there's a string of pieces by her which look really good, so I shall be making time to have a good read of them later on.

littlbrowndog · 21/09/2020 10:03

That is great piece Spartacus. Thanks for share

I would also add the women and girls in Belarus who are being detained for their political believes.

PronounssheRa · 21/09/2020 10:07

I, and this is just a wild guess, put it down to a tra phoning the police to shut Posie up

Yep. In Posie debrief video she said that once they were arrested, one of the officers allegedly said 'good work we have stopped them'

There is also a video from the counter protest which films Posie being arrested, right at the end of that you can here a man celebrating her arrest.

Let's not forget Leeds city council tried to shut down a woman's place meeting 2 years ago. Same TRAs involved then I think.

McDuffy · 21/09/2020 10:07

I've just read this entire thread with a slight tremble. Posie and her comrades are just absolute nails. I wish I'd gone!! I might take my parents if there's another one, both retired police/related field (not WYP thank god), and my DM is feisty af!

SorryImKnew · 21/09/2020 10:08

Well whatever Claire said, that's what the police were going off. So perhaps Claire could clarify!

Butterer · 21/09/2020 10:11

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Cailleach1 · 21/09/2020 10:12

Maybe it is only women who are in lockdown.

TinselAngel · 21/09/2020 10:14

@Cailleach1

Ok, slight difference from the organisers having said they're (Standing for Women or Leeds Resisters) not a political organisation.

In fact, it is the police who have interpreted their cause/aims as not being political and deemed they are not a political organisation.

That was how I interpreted the conversation that I heard.
Cailleach1 · 21/09/2020 10:23

Answers would still need to be given on how they arrived at that interpretation.

TinselAngel · 21/09/2020 10:23

@Cailleach1

Answers would still need to be given on how they arrived at that interpretation.
Yes absolutely.
SorryImKnew · 21/09/2020 10:27

I know I heard someone on some video stating to the police that they wanted it to be like Speakers Corner in Hyde Park. Not sure what that's classified as, but probably not a political gathering.

SorryImKnew · 21/09/2020 10:30

Organiser, or Claire who appears to have been the one liaising with the police, should have clarified that they were exempt from the Rule of Six and got it in writing from the police. Then they could have waxed lyrical ad nauseum.

SorryImKnew · 21/09/2020 10:32

As it stands though from my viewpoint, in hindsight, everyone seems content that the police got involved and the posters here are claiming that that was the plan all along, so all's well that ends well!

TinselAngel · 21/09/2020 10:33

@SorryImKnew

Organiser, or Claire who appears to have been the one liaising with the police, should have clarified that they were exempt from the Rule of Six and got it in writing from the police. Then they could have waxed lyrical ad nauseum.
Why are you here speculating so wildly?
PronounssheRa · 21/09/2020 10:33

@SorryImKnew

Organiser, or Claire who appears to have been the one liaising with the police, should have clarified that they were exempt from the Rule of Six and got it in writing from the police. Then they could have waxed lyrical ad nauseum.
There is no law as far as I am aware that says they needed to do this.

It's for the police to back up their claim that women's rights aren't political.

SorryImKnew · 21/09/2020 10:35

Everything is political. But whether the gathering was classed as a political gathering is another matter. Would need to find out what a political gathering is defined as in the legislation. Definitions are usually outlined at the start of the document.

Cailleach1 · 21/09/2020 10:36

If the police are using their powers to shut down something which they for some reason don't agree meets the criteria of a political organisation, it needs more than a pluck it out of somewhere 'probably' which is based on nothing solid.

What is the definition and does Standing for Women meet it?

SorryImKnew · 21/09/2020 10:36

Why are you here speculating so wildly? It's my God-given right to free speech! Wink

Cailleach1 · 21/09/2020 10:39

Unfortunately, none of the police could give a definition of what a political organisation was. Yet they said the aims weren't political. Square that someone.

PronounssheRa · 21/09/2020 10:40

Sorry

I linked up thread to the opinion of a human rights barrister, who agrees the police are wrong. There is an analysis of the regulations in that thread.