The awful trend on Twitter

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Hi, I don't post often, but I've seen the awful twitter trend today in regard to J K Rowling, I just feel so scared and defeated about women's rights, why are more people not up in arms and defending us? I also fear for her and women's safety, as some of these TRA's seem really unhinged.

Roll on a cold winter at jedward towers 🔥🔥🔥

Are Jedward a thing still?

We’re they ever? Reminded me of village folks you’d see and think ‘aw the poor wee souls...’

I'd love a twitter storm where Jedward are piled on for environmental abuse (adding to carbon emissions by recommending fires), for cultural insensitivity (the fires wreaking havoc in USA at the moment), and for some kind of gendered insensitivity (the burning of women/witches, triggering the pain of our inheritance of 'gendered' oppression). I'm sure someone could start it off, throw in enough words like problematic, appropriation, white cisgendered, and weaponising, and they'd be issuing a grovelling apology within a couple of hours.

I put them in the same bracket of comedy value. Bit like Mr Blobby or Timmy Mallet and The Yellow Polkadot Bikini song.

Jedward have come back into fashion recently for their sassy tweets and pro-mask stance. Charming for a bit but it seems to have gone to their heads.

I can't understand how people aren't making the connection here. Even aside from the deranged hate, still seeing so much 'so disappointed in JKR' and 'support these trans/non-binary authors' and 'trans rights are human rights' stuff from people. Not a mention of women's rights, or how death threats are disgusting, or the concept of actually reading a book.

It's really depressing. I had hoped this level of horror would help more people see.

Jedward got a lot of positive press for slagging off some Covididiots in Ireland. And then the stupid book burning tweet ...

I think they overreached themselves. Better give their twitter account back to mammy.

On Twitter, I follow and am followed by a bunch of people with whom I share a common interest. They are all much younger than me and are all full of this shit. I'm ignoring them on that topic because I'm a fucking coward. On social media with an anonymous name as well as in real life.

Oh I've reached a good bit....

No spoilers and I've cropped it but it's just so damn pertinent....

I hope JKR won't mind me posting this little snippet....

DeRigueur

belllini

You are VERY well regarded by lurking MNers on such a' such issue.

Real life has a silly habit of interfering with false'identity politics.

Bellini I am the same, it’s like it’s a bandwagon that they all jump on. I do believe that a number of them have no clue what they are talking about so I avoid any discussion if these subjects and concentrate on the narrow topic that we have in common. The idea that they are going through their followers and blocking anyone who follows them whose views they disagree with is scary though .

I think MN is the only place I can speak my mind on this. I'm not called bellinisurge on Twitter but I'm still anonymous. Mostly because my job requires me to deal with the public and I don't want them to find me. But also because I am scared of being found out as "gender critical " - I work in the public sector.
I had what started as a light hearted chat in the pub with colleagues I assumed had a questioning and critical mind about this kind of cult think. "so you're a terf" one said, only half joking. I laughed and left.

The idea that they are going through their followers and blocking anyone who follows them whose views they disagree with is scary though.

It's cult-like behaviour. I see it on Twitter a lot-there's a "terf blocker", and they block all the followers of one person they disagree with.

They really cannot cope with differing opinions, they interpret any disagreement to be hate fuelled. It's crazy. So they block everyone who doesn't chant the same things they do to protect themselves from sanity "hate".

It's completely unhealthy behaviour. I genuinely wonder how they cope out in the real world?

I am waiting for the moment that the people who follow me on Twitter see who else I follow. I'm too cowardly to "like" the tweets from JKR, Debbie Hayton, Transgender Trend etc

Trans women already use women's facilities, they have to in order to get GRA.

That's not at all true, @Smileifyoucan - it's a myth. How on earth could it be true - how could such a claim ever be evidenced, anyway? And how can it be true, when the Equality Act quite specifically says that women are allowed to have sex segregated spaces, which even a GRA can't force access to (despite the EHRC and the GEO misrepresenting the law - legal advice which they have withdrawn, since, as it was wrong).

And while absolutely, trans people are no more likely to offend than anyone else of their biological sex, they're no less likely to, either. Transwomen sexually offend at standard male rates, and while the vast majority of men don't offend, the vast majority of such offenders are male. Which is why we have sex segregated spaces to begin with.

If sex, not gender identity, detemines risk, why are the feelings of people born with penises seen as more important than the feelings and safety of people born with vaginas? I mean, isn't that a classic example of absolutely blatant sexism? And if not - why not? Why are the feelings of males so desperately sensitive that a small number must be catered to, however much that guarantees harm to a large number of women? Can you explain that, please?

Same for me bellini. I have to be on twitter for my job, but I am refusing to participate at the moment. It genuinely has a negative impact on my mental health, my mood, my resilience, my relationships. I looked in today (following a link on here) and saw one of my best friends (amongst work colleagues) retweeting and liking some JKR hate and felt so fucking low. I like and respect her. When did she stop thinking and seeing??

I've also seen a lot of 'if any of my followers still follow JKR please unfollow me now before I block you'. God, would I LOVE to have that argument. Can't, of course.

@bellinisurge

I am waiting for the moment that the people who follow me on Twitter see who else I follow. I'm too cowardly to "like" the tweets from JKR, Debbie Hayton, Transgender Trend etc

I do like them all. It's just about the only thing I do on Twitter. I'm assuming that I'm too insignificant for anyone to check up on, and I don't retweet anything. But likes -- yep. It could get me into trouble one day...

Just about all my Twitter "friends" are GC people or people who with #ilovejkr etc. on their profile.

@RoyalCorgi

Can't find it now, but someone on Twitter produced a list of 66 male killers who dressed as women.

Reality is transphobic.

This one? twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1143047256339181568?s=20

@Bellinisurge I know what you mean, I'm public sector too and one of my clients wanted to follow me on twitter. Didn't really know how to say no, but yes maybe they've looked at who I follow. Luckily in real life I have friends who are not into all this. I don't know all the correct words or acronyms etc, but as a Children's Librarian I have lots of admiration for JK. I'm so glad she's standing up for us all.

Also off the top of my head - don't read crime novels, didn't Silence of the Lambs and Psycho, films, have men dressed as women being the murderers?It's a common trope.

Eh he he.

BUT the book is apparently not about anything like that. Nick Cohen has weighed in and said "I've read the latest Strike novel, and the claim it's anti-trans is total shite. I can't tell you why it is total shite without giving away the ending. So until you read it yourself, which you should, you will just have to trust me: this is total shite".
Oh, and the new book is in the Amazon top 10 best sellers.

One person's account on Twitter. Nick Cohen has said the same thing in an article in the Spectator. The entire thing was a lie.

"I just read the book. There is no transvestite murderer. There's a sentence in which one near-victim in the 1970s couldn't give a good description her attacker as he wore a woman's wig and coat. That's it. No mention of transgender throughout the book."