Janice Turner on safeguarding manages to name everyone succinctly in one column

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Cuties, Exist Loudly, Stonewall, NSPCC, Bergdorf, Tatchell, MAP...

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8c46aad6-f461-11ea-9de6-a6e4d4016fb7?shareToken=e196d311d52618102baf33fd9f6a2fbd

This is why she wins writing awards. Gets so much across in a short space (waves to Janice! 👋)

Janice is fantastic. I took out a subscription to the Times just to read her columns a few months ago (started to feel guilty about using others’ share tokens so often!)

Fantastic article. Thank you Janice.

It was not just in Britain that pro paedophile campaigners were active. This petition in France called for abolition of the age of consent

" A number of French intellectuals – including such prominent names as Louis Aragon, Michel Foucault, Jean-Paul Sartre, Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser, Roland Barthes, Simone de Beauvoir, Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Michel Leiris, Alain Robbe-Grillet, Philippe Sollers, Jacques Rancière, Jean-François Lyotard, Francis Ponge, Bernard Besret and various prominent doctors and psychologists – signed the petition"

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

Excellent article. It is very worrying that so many prominent people, be they politicians or celebrities are afraid to say exactly what Janice has just written so well. Everything she has written is fact, yet if you speak out you are cancelled for wrongspeak. I hope that articles like this will help open peoples eyes to this disturbing and dangerous trend.

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

Does she usually write for The Times?

Yes, causing a moral dilemma for all who don’t wish to support the scummy Murdoch press! What can we do? The Guardian has turned against women, it’s all about identity politics now. The Morning Star is the only leftwing paper I can buy that hasn’t been captured. So most of the rational journalists are published in the rightwing press.

I don't have a moral dilemma about this anymore. I don't think the Guardian is a left-wing paper partly because I don't think the idea of 'left' and 'right' politics has very much meaning at all anymore. If you oppose MAPs and want to protect children, or if you believe in science, or if you don't think that librarians should be 'decolonising' the library (aka burning books) then you're considered to be right-wing. Meanwhile, the so-called left-wingers are trying to get women sacked from their jobs, supporting rapists and child abusers, and calling for the shut-down of STEM studies.

If the voices of reason and anti-authoritarianism can only be published in the so-called right-wing press, then those publications are on my side and I'll happily support them. Being accused of being right-wing by people who literally want to burn books is just a joke to me.

The comments below are good too. In the Scotland section of today's Times they've written about the JK Rowling poster taken down by Network Rail. They're not letting up at all.

It was not just in Britain that pro paedophile campaigners were active. This petition in France called for abolition of the age of consent

Not many female names in that list.

If the voices of reason and anti-authoritarianism can only be published in the so-called right-wing press, then those publications are on my side and I'll happily support them. Being accused of being right-wing by people who literally want to burn books is just a joke to me

Great post. I agree that this is the definitive issue. On one side are totalitarian zealots who want everyone to obediently chant slogans and submit to the new orthodoxy. On the other side is everyone else. This is not a hard choice to make.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/rowling-poster-removed-from-waverley-station-despite-zero-public-complaints-rq29r2jg0

I'm sorry, I don't know how to do share tokens.

Brilliant article.

Brava Janice.

She is an astounding writer.

Brava Janice! Another great article.
Thank you for bringing me to the Times, it really is a good newspaper. My subscription is the best money I spend all month.
I’m another former Guardian reader.

Wow, she includes it all like drag story time and pups at "family friendly" pride events. Bravo! Hope it gets read by those whose job it is to protect children.

I think she ticked all the boxes. She has a lovely tone and writes beautifully (it’s not often you read something that stands out because it is well crafted).

The Times carries a range of political views. Its editorship has always been explicitly independent of its ownership. The Sunday Times in particular has always been known for its investigative journalism.

You can usually find sharetoken links for Janice's columns and occasional longer articles on here, though I think those links expire at some point.

Also, I've not yet listened to it but I believe Janice probably contributes on Times Radio, no idea how that's scheduled but maybe worth keeping an ear on.

I buy the Saturday Times every week, it's an absolute treat. I'll save this to read later, she is simply wonderful.

Here's a sharetoken link for the JKR poster article (I'm sure there's another thread about this though)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rowling-poster-removed-from-waverley-station-despite-zero-public-complaints-rq29r2jg0?shareToken=6c88acc62e11f677ae37870a79280df7

The Times very often publishes blistering criticism of right wing politicians. Its contributors come from the whole spectrum of belief and leaning. I feel like I've been invited to a fabulous dinner party where you can say what you damn well like
and the only rule is that your point must be made intelligently.

@MillyMollyFarmer

Janice is amazing. This is a great article, even covering Tatchell ( although where has he ever distanced himself from his words on child abuse? )

I’m not sure that he has explicitly but he did update the interview on his website with a 14 y/o who had apparently been sexually active since he was 6 (I think) to imply that he was advocating for underage sex between young people of similar age to be legalised but the interview originally had the 14 y/o boy with a 28 year old partner that he wanted to have sex with This guy is just beyond words.

The comment section reads like a sample of recent discussions on this esteemed forum! There is drag queen storytime, the awful dice game and the ongoing safe guarding issues mentioned and getting lots of recs.

Some good comments under the article. This one is excellent.

Fabulous article, Janice. We need to be talking about the principles of child safeguarding a lot more. Gay and soi disant trans chiidren deserve the same levels of protect as all other children.

And by adopting them, providers protect THEMSELVES from infiltration by abusers. The arrogance of those who think that every abuser in the land isn't watching their rejection of protocols all developed in the wake of abuse scandals and thinking "this would be a great area to infiltrate next" is really quite staggering. Of course they are. That's what they do. They go where the barriers are the lowest.

Not mentioned in your article but worth pointing out. The Director General of the National Crime Agency, Lynne Owens, sent a polite tweet to the Exist Loudly organiser offering personal assistance from the online exploitation team:

"Exist Loudly - I know my team @CEOPUK would be pleased to advise you on how to achieve your aim safely for children?"

The response was to block her. Shocking indeed.

Does India Knight write for The Times still? Eric Joyce’s partner, right? I’m surprised Janice didn’t write about that story. Maybe she did and I missed it.

Brilliant article, she is an excellent and fearless journalist. Agree that The Times and The Morning Star are the only papers worth reading now. Years since I have bought the Guardian, which now seems so dated and regressive.

Wow. So powerful seeing it set out like that. Excellent writing.

And by adopting them, providers protect THEMSELVES from infiltration by abusers. The arrogance of those who think that every abuser in the land isn't watching their rejection of protocols all developed in the wake of abuse scandals and thinking "this would be a great area to infiltrate next" is really quite staggering. Of course they are. That's what they do. They go where the barriers are the lowest.

This is so spot on. I really do not know why people will not understand it. Following and understanding protocols protects the providers, those working for them and the clients. It is a win, win, win.

Anyway, I rue the day we changed our shopping day to Friday, with its free paper and I will have to have a walk over to the newsagents, again. Janice is worth it