JK Rowling's has written another post

[MilleniumHallsWalledGarden]

calling once more for a more nuanced debate around gender identity and women's rights. It's here https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/statement-from-j-k-rowling-regarding-the-robert-f-kennedy-human-rights-ripple-of-hope-award/.

JKR

I think she'll be OK. There are people with an inner resilience who are able to protect themselves from such onslaughts. I think she is one of them.

It’s just so mind numbingly stupid. When somebody is denying another human being the right to vote/work/receive an education/receive medical care/be treated equally by the law, they do not stop to wonder about that person’s internal sense of their own identity.

However this idea that an internal, unknowable sense of self can and must be affirmed by others seems to have spread equally to both human rights organisations and gun toting Trump supporters.

What am I saying? ‘Women know your place, it’s not safe to threaten a male ego’ is as old as time. None of this is new.

Julie Bindel
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I'm standing with so many. women at the moment I'm going to end up with varicose veins.

However this idea that an internal, unknowable sense of self can and must be affirmed by others

But that only applies to very specific things and very specific people holding a very specific angle on the ideology.

Try telling those human rights orgs that your internal unknowable sense of self makes you a transsexual who is and always will be male, or that you're a detransitioner, or an adult human female who has no gender and only a biological reality, or a lesbian with a homosexual orientation only towards other biological females and suddenly you're entitled to no rights whatsoever.

It isn't a value, it's a political position and it's a damn scary one in human rights terms. We're right back to 'rights are for our people and if you're not one of us you're the enemy'. Tale as old as bloody time, it's like WW2 never happened.

That person claiming they had already stripped her of the award - yeah... Sure!!! 😂😂😂

As if she would write that piece and state so clearly that she was returning the award, knowing the sort of attention that would bring, if they had already taken it back. If they had already done that presumably there would be evidence (an email or letter or something) and JKR is not do stupid as to allow herself to look like a massive dick by lying about something you could easily disprove.

These people are just such bullshitters.

Government Minister (and friend of Boris) Zach Goldsmith has tweeted in support of JKR. This is significant because he is a liberal Conservative and may have been seen as a supporter of reforming the gender recognition act.

mobile.twitter.com/ZacGoldsmith/status/1299442425287639040

I’m sure that what is hurting gender questioning children is being told people like JK hate them and deny their existence.

Extreme hyperbole and distortion is very common, I'm sure you're right. I saw a tweet from a political lobby supporter the other day informing someone that as they had signed the declaration for sex based rights for women, they were committed to the eradication of trans people world wide. Which is what my uni professor would have politely referred to as a 'radical interpretation of the text'.

This response has over 30,000 likes just on twitter (it's probably all over instagram and facebook too). Potentially millions of views all over the world. That's thousands of people who now believe that "numerous" (exactly how many?) studies have shown that 30-50% of trans children make suicide attempts.

Any replies trying to point out the falseness of this stat or asking for more information are drowned out.

This rhetoric is unassailable. If you voice a concern about children transitioning you will be deemed a murderer.

If you voice a concern about children transitioning you will be deemed a murderer.

Yet throwing about vague, unreferenced statistics like Lees has done here is somehow unconnected and perfectly fine.

Here is an article on the subject, referenced, with links:

fairplayforwomen.com/suicide/

It isn't a value, it's a political position and it's a damn scary one in human rights terms.

I agree, but it’s presented as a value, and most people don’t question it.

Particularly younger people seem to think there is a ‘right to an identity’, without questioning whether identity is something that should require external validation, or whether the government should be formally classifying people by internal sense of identity.

Really I think the driving force behind all this is old fashioned Male ego.

@MondayYogurt

This response has over 30,000 likes just on twitter (it's probably all over instagram and facebook too). Potentially millions of views all over the world. That's thousands of people who now believe that "numerous" (exactly how many?) studies have shown that 30-50% of trans children make suicide attempts.

Any replies trying to point out the falseness of this stat or asking for more information are drowned out.

This rhetoric is unassailable. If you voice a concern about children transitioning you will be deemed a murderer.

All that means is when the true situation is irrefutable, these people will look like desperate propagandists.

Once all the ongoing court cases are reported in the press, it will be millions of people who read them nationwide, not thousands on someone's twitter.

Domestic abuse and suicide threats.

www.thehotline.org/2014/08/21/when-your-partner-threatens-suicide/

breakthesilencedv.org/suicide-as-emotional-abuse-threats-suicide-control/

www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/relationships/a9905675/domestic-abuse-suicide-control/

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-49481998

“The eight steps she discovered in almost all of the 372 killings she studied were...

.....Escalation - an increase in the intensity or frequency of the partner's control tactics, such as by stalking or threatening suicide”

@SophocIestheFox

Every time she speaks up on this, I admire her more and more.

Why should she do it quietly? This organisation publically trashed her- they could equally have chided her behind the scenes, but didn’t. Shots fired. She didn't just tell them to take their award and get fucked, but actually bothered to take the time to articulate her position with grace and subtly. It’s more than they deserved. She has not put a foot wrong as far as I’m concerned, and the fact that it’s her reasonableness, kindness and grace under fire that is utterly deranging her critics speaks equally to her character and to theirs.

This. When they go low, she goes high, and they can't stand it.

'If your partner often says they’re going to kill themselves when things aren’t going their way, they’re not showing you love – they’re likely trying to control your actions'

I really don't think you should downplay the impact of 'one person's twitter'.
Excluding bots and likes as bookmarks that's still a massive reach, because every one of those people may have a circle of family and friends who they will now police.
And that's just the people who liked it or RT it, many more read and do nothing but the rhetoric, the repetition, the constant demand that no one object or else they ARE MURDERERS is unrelenting.
Facts don't matter, only emotional responses.
And pretending these words/propaganda doesn't infiltrate society is wishful thinking.

The thing about this hugely popular message is that kids will read it and they'll believe that if they aren't affirmed then suicide is just what they're supposed to do.

I feel posts like that should have a TW and automatic link to Samaritans.

JKR is utterly awesome.

And I think she's right that an ethical and medical scandal is brewing.

The speed with which young adults are put on hormones is shocking. Their brains aren't even fully mature, they are not obliged to go through counselling, and they are at an age when they think that they are immortal and don't understand how final some actions can be.

Word leaking out on Twitter that they were going to officially strip her of it and this is just her way of doing ‘You can’t fire me because I quit!’.

No idea if true but that’s pretty damning if so

twitter.com/sharpkristopher/status/1299399955845705732?s=21

Oh yes, Monday, I don't disagree, at all, that it's highly irresponsible and influences young people. I was more referring to changing public opinion, as a whole.

The whole situation is a cesspit of self serving rhetoric, without responsibility or consequences.

Mermaids go into schools to teach children about all the ways they might be trans. The list of possible criteria describes every kid on the planet.

Once the public at large, and the government in particular, realise how this process starts in school, hopefully these specific lessons will come to an end.

That way TRAs on Twitter will have nothing to reinforce.

[quote Lisz]Word leaking out on Twitter that they were going to officially strip her of it and this is just her way of doing ‘You can’t fire me because I quit!’.

No idea if true but that’s pretty damning if so

twitter.com/sharpkristopher/status/1299399955845705732?s=21[/quote]
Oh dear, they can't even get their stories straight. One says it was stripped of her, the other said they had merely started the process.

Again, I imagine it's something she could probably take on legally.

I don't suppose she can be bothered. It's playground level tactics.

The Times article had nearly 600 comments this morning. The overwhelming majority were completely supportive of JKR. The only ones that were not were by the two or three usual Times TRAs. Now all comments are hidden, pending moderation. I am very concerned that Julie Burchill was right, and that this paper is headed down the woke SJW road. It’s an expensive subscription. I am not sure I will be paying it if they start down this editorial road.

Mermaids go into schools to teach children about all the ways they might be trans. The list of possible criteria describes every kid on the planet.

And then say that 30-50% of those children attempt suicide.

JKR's statement is in the news. More and more people will read her words and see the calm, caring balanced points she makes.

They will ask themselves the Jack Appleby question:

What's more likely: That a load of life-long left-leaning LGBT-supporting women have inexplicably and uncharacteristically all suddenly become bigots or that one might be missing something here?

[quote Lisz]Word leaking out on Twitter that they were going to officially strip her of it and this is just her way of doing ‘You can’t fire me because I quit!’.

No idea if true but that’s pretty damning if so

twitter.com/sharpkristopher/status/1299399955845705732?s=21[/quote]
Of course it's not true! 😂

They are projecting their own standards of game play here, she would not be that stupid to lie about something, something that she knows will draw a lot of attention, that could be so easily disproved with an email or letter.