What have I just watched on BBC News from their gender correspondence?

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Did anyone else catch this report from the BBC gender correspondent? Apparently there have always been multiple genders in some cultures but this has been lost in time.

sorry typo in title - correspondent obviously, not correspondence.

So there have always been men and women that don’t conform to gender stereotypes? Is this news?

That’s probably true, I’m not an anthropologist so I’d believe it.

But there have only ever been two sexes.

Exactly! I don't understand why it's news now.

I'm wondering what is a gender correspondent and why is there a need for one...

What does that change? The whole issue is the conflation of gender with sex. You can whatever you feel like as a gender, not as a sex.

Just saw that, it was worse than useless. The question I was left with was, What is point?

Just saw that, it was worse than useless. The question I was left with was, What is point?

Thanks pickingdaisies. I'm glad you caught it as I was beginning to think I'd hallucinated it!

I'm wondering what is a gender correspondent and why is there a need for one...

They need one just to keep track of the many genders people keep inventing. It's a full time job.

It was terribly ... naive.

Yes, I just saw it on News24. Poor Carrie Gracie had to say in the introduction "Some people in Western cultures say that gender is binary and divided into male and female, and that gender fluidity is a recent phenomenon."

At least the BBC’s Gender and Identity correspondent did say sex was binary (not gender) in the actual story. Surely GC people think that gender fluidity is as old as the hills!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-53573764/pre-colonial-communities-history-of-gender-fluidity

But it must be true as they interviewed a Brazilian man who "weaves, cooks and cleans" Apparently all that knowledge was lost with colonialism

Smurftastic, judging by the standard of that piece, no, there is no need for a gender correspondent. They started by mentioning sex, male female, binary. Then whoosh, straight into multiple genders. A native American explained that there are four genders in their culture. MM, FF, MF and FM. They are a MF because they have a male body but like feminine clothes and enjoy cooking and cleaning. Then someone from India explained that they are a third gender, but there had been so much waffle about all the genders that India recognises, and this has been going on for a very long time, that I had well and truly lost interest. And then - well, that was it. Baffling.

I have had several long conversations about this with a friend who is an anthropology prof. "Third genders" (sworn virgins, bacha posh, hijra, three spirit people, fa-afine) tend to arise in cultures with very rigidly socially enforced sex stereotypes, and often deeply entrenched homophobia, as a kind of safety valve.

Somehow I doubt the BBC noted this.

Some people in the West think gender is binary .......and some don't think gender actually exists at all, at least be accurate.

I was just about to come and start a thread on this. When I heard they had appointed a "gender" correspondence my heart sank.

What was interesting about this report (and have to admit it was on in the background so may have missed parts) is it made no attempt to say sex and gender where the same thing. It specifically talked about sex being biological.

It then moved into a rather clunky its all the fault of colonial imperialism that the ability to be born male but want to be "feminine' in terms of dress and interest and vica versa where quashed.

So on one hand I thought at least they weren't pushing the you can change sex agenda, but by focusing on it as another negative consequence of white racist culture, were more pushing the BLM agenda and redressing the imbalance.

But of course didn't tackle the underlying question of how in any society "gender" becomes a norm of conformity. If it wasn't there would be no need in any cultures to have these "other" genders.

But suspect theTWAW brigrade will be outraged because it didn't frame the report as other cultures accept that people are trans!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/53573764/pre-colonial-communities-history-of-gender-fluidity

BBC should confine itself to actual news reporting. I don't give a shit if there are eleventh billion genders, there are still only two sexes and you can't change from one to the other. I don't care if some native American bloke likes cooking - how is it news that a man has a hobby?
The world might be better if we stopped talking about gender altogether (I'm not even sure what it means anymore anyway) and just let people be individuals with their own preferences and stopped trying to load it with meaning.

Notice that none of the three individuals featured are going to give birth or spend time in the menstrual hut.

Superb, so they managed to somehow pick three men to talk about being another gender?!

This is a pertinent reminder of this:

www.transgendertrend.com/happy-birthday-jkrowling/

I mean, just for balance they should have included a woman.

I saw this online before and wondered if there was a thread.

It seems strange that we're told over and over again that gender is not about stereotypes or clothes but here it is in plain sight - males who do not meet cultural standards of masculinity are not classed as 'real' males and need a way to be defined as separate.

Again, why can't men 'man up' and accept that there's more than one way to be a man?

Oh what utter woke bollocks. And a waste of licence-payers' money.

I mean, just for balance they should have included a woman.
The last person interviewed from Australia was xx, and identified as a brother boy.