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Let's talk about sects baby! Psychotherapy, all the good things and the bad things that can be

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hoodathunkit · 22/07/2020 10:51

Let's talk about it!

Apologies for not posting yesterday.

I got so caught up in posting on Monday that it has left me very behind with a number of tasks and quite exhausted.

There is so much to be written about dodgy psychotherapy and its links to satanic panic hoaxes and also to real dangerous cults that it will take a very long time to sort it all out.

I am very busy today, but would like to start by providing evidence to support my claims about Bessel van der Kolk, claims that were disputed by various posters in the thread about Jacqui Dillon and MAPs.

It will take a while for me to post all the evidential links and screen shots, so please bear with me, this will take some time. I will not be able to finish this task today as there is just so much information.

I would like to initially explore Bessel van der Kolk’s many connections to neo-tantric sex cults, this will take a few posts and I am not sure whether I will have more time today so please bear with me.

Firstly let us examine the activities of Bessel's wife Betta van der Kolk aka Betta de Boer van der Kolk

here is a photo of Bessel and Betta together that I harvested from a facebook account (I think it was Bessel’s account to be honest I am not entirely sure, but the photo shows they are a couple and the text accompanying the photo on the fb page confirmed this.) The facebook account is no longer available to me, others may be able to see it? However readers will be able to see from the photo that Bessel and Betta are a couple and will also be able to identify the women in the photo, Betta, as the same woman in my links below

photo here

Now, let us examine Betta van der Kolk’s work as a “tantric” healer and educator

Here is a link to an internet radio show titled "Tantra and Sexual Healing with Bette de Boer van der Kolk “ in which the following text appears
"This interview features body psychotherapist Betta de Boer van der Kolk about Tantra as a way to heal from sexual abuse. Betta describes Tantra as an exchange of energy that brings presence, connection, safety and play into sexuality. She leads the listener in a technique for couples to harmonize their breathing in order to give to each other through their bodies. She also describes ways that a woman can receive sexual healing through Tantric massage, and men can learn to dissociate orgasm from ejaculation, in order to experience ejaculatory control.”

source:
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200722074139/safespaceradio.com/tantra/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200722074139/safespaceradio.com/tantra/

I have linked via the archive for safety and for archiving purposes. Readers interested listening to the audio can access it not using the archive using an internet cafe, library or some anonymous place if possible.

The below link is also informative and includes the following text:

"Betta de Boer-van der Kolk – a gifted expert on Tantra and Trauma who came all the way from Amsterdam to be with us. Betta and Dan demonstrated the ‘love dance’ (a completely clothed demonstration of positions for lovemaking), sharing the multitude of ways to share physical love, staying connected with body, energy and heart. It was one of the highlights of the weekend to experience!"

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200722080117/blog.sourcetantra.com/tantra-hawaii-judith-davis/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200722080117/blog.sourcetantra.com/tantra-hawaii-judith-davis/

Another link if significant interest

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150513033724/www.meetup.com/Source-School-of-Tantra-Yoga-Boston/members/34601892/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20150513033724/www.meetup.com/Source-School-of-Tantra-Yoga-Boston/members/34601892/

as is this link via the archive
archive.is/u4bGo

Readers interested to learn the kind of activities performed by Tantra Educators from the Source School of Tantra may wish to read the following 1st person account of a yoni massage performed on a vulnerable female by a man called Sturm, a Tantra Educator from the Source School of Tantra in Maui, Hawaii

"I Got a Yoni Massage For Journalism"
The tantric healing modality is supposed to release tension through your vagina. But it was more like getting finger-banged by a stranger.

BY JESSIE SCHIEWE
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200503204854/www.okwhatever.org/topics/naughty/i-got-a-yoni-massage-weird-news" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200503204854/www.okwhatever.org/topics/naughty/i-got-a-yoni-massage-weird-news

I will post again as soon as I can

Let's talk about sects baby! Psychotherapy, all the good things and the bad things that can be
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hoodathunkit · 05/08/2020 16:35

I would like to add that I have not researched Gus Hosein at all and I don't have much of an idea who he is other than as an associate of Fleur Fisher and Simon Davies.

I included the video with him in as it includes Simon Davies who is wanted by the police in Australia on multiple charges of child sexual abuse.

Obviously anyone accused of child sexual abuse is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Also the last link in my above post is interesting, however I could not get the page to load other than in the archive. There may be something wrong with it - it may be a hacked / fake news page. I would advise readers not to click on any links within it and to be careful.

Obviously it would be great if mumsnet readers could help to track down Simon Davies so that he can face trial in a court of law.

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hoodathunkit · 05/08/2020 16:36

Have you thought of writing all this as a blog instead, OP?

yes, not enough time

PLEASE?

Why the shouting?

Just don't read it if you don't want to

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togetheragain · 05/08/2020 19:38

@hoodathunkit

Have you thought of writing all this as a blog instead, OP?

yes, not enough time

PLEASE?

Why the shouting?

Just don't read it if you don't want to

But op we are forced to read it because you spaff it all over every thread you could contribute to on FWR.
hoodathunkit · 16/08/2020 20:02

spaff

now there's a word you don't hear every day

BJ, is it you? Grin

So much to share I have been extremely busy and have encountered some unpleasant challenges that have prevented me from posting

I am hopefully moving from my current appalling situation where I was attacked physically a few days ago.

I'm fine, thanks to the ability to defend myself, but it was upsetting and I needed to take time to exercise in the sun.

I have such a lot of tasks to do to get the move going but will be posting here too when I have a moment :)

Things have been moving at a very fast pace re my specific interests and various survivors have been calling out the fake whistleblower Jon Wedger which has been interesting

More soon

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