Let's talk about sects baby! Psychotherapy, all the good things and the bad things that can be

[hoodathunkit]

Let's talk about it!

Apologies for not posting yesterday.

I got so caught up in posting on Monday that it has left me very behind with a number of tasks and quite exhausted.

There is so much to be written about dodgy psychotherapy and its links to satanic panic hoaxes and also to real dangerous cults that it will take a very long time to sort it all out.

I am very busy today, but would like to start by providing evidence to support my claims about Bessel van der Kolk, claims that were disputed by various posters in the thread about Jacqui Dillon and MAPs.

It will take a while for me to post all the evidential links and screen shots, so please bear with me, this will take some time. I will not be able to finish this task today as there is just so much information.

I would like to initially explore Bessel van der Kolk’s many connections to neo-tantric sex cults, this will take a few posts and I am not sure whether I will have more time today so please bear with me.

Firstly let us examine the activities of Bessel's wife Betta van der Kolk aka Betta de Boer van der Kolk

here is a photo of Bessel and Betta together that I harvested from a facebook account (I think it was Bessel’s account to be honest I am not entirely sure, but the photo shows they are a couple and the text accompanying the photo on the fb page confirmed this.) The facebook account is no longer available to me, others may be able to see it? However readers will be able to see from the photo that Bessel and Betta are a couple and will also be able to identify the women in the photo, Betta, as the same woman in my links below

photo here

Now, let us examine Betta van der Kolk’s work as a “tantric” healer and educator

Here is a link to an internet radio show titled "Tantra and Sexual Healing with Bette de Boer van der Kolk “ in which the following text appears
"This interview features body psychotherapist Betta de Boer van der Kolk about Tantra as a way to heal from sexual abuse. Betta describes Tantra as an exchange of energy that brings presence, connection, safety and play into sexuality. She leads the listener in a technique for couples to harmonize their breathing in order to give to each other through their bodies. She also describes ways that a woman can receive sexual healing through Tantric massage, and men can learn to dissociate orgasm from ejaculation, in order to experience ejaculatory control.”

source:
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200722074139/safespaceradio.com/tantra/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200722074139/safespaceradio.com/tantra/

I have linked via the archive for safety and for archiving purposes. Readers interested listening to the audio can access it not using the archive using an internet cafe, library or some anonymous place if possible.

The below link is also informative and includes the following text:

"Betta de Boer-van der Kolk – a gifted expert on Tantra and Trauma who came all the way from Amsterdam to be with us. Betta and Dan demonstrated the ‘love dance’ (a completely clothed demonstration of positions for lovemaking), sharing the multitude of ways to share physical love, staying connected with body, energy and heart. It was one of the highlights of the weekend to experience!"

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200722080117/blog.sourcetantra.com/tantra-hawaii-judith-davis/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200722080117/blog.sourcetantra.com/tantra-hawaii-judith-davis/

Another link if significant interest

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150513033724/www.meetup.com/Source-School-of-Tantra-Yoga-Boston/members/34601892/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20150513033724/www.meetup.com/Source-School-of-Tantra-Yoga-Boston/members/34601892/

as is this link via the archive
archive.is/u4bGo

Readers interested to learn the kind of activities performed by Tantra Educators from the Source School of Tantra may wish to read the following 1st person account of a yoni massage performed on a vulnerable female by a man called Sturm, a Tantra Educator from the Source School of Tantra in Maui, Hawaii

"I Got a Yoni Massage For Journalism"
The tantric healing modality is supposed to release tension through your vagina. But it was more like getting finger-banged by a stranger.

BY JESSIE SCHIEWE
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200503204854/www.okwhatever.org/topics/naughty/i-got-a-yoni-massage-weird-news" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200503204854/www.okwhatever.org/topics/naughty/i-got-a-yoni-massage-weird-news

I will post again as soon as I can

If I get memories back from my DV years through IFS I will be thrilled. Whether or not they are true really doesn’t matter. I would just like some memories of my kids during those years rather than mostly a big gap.

We live in terrifying times in which our democracy is threatened by false allegations of sexual abuse and satanic ritual abuse

You just keep posting random collections of links and theories that seem to have nothing to do with anything. This statement above is nonsense. I feel like you are trolling women on this thread. If you do have an actual argument maybe you should take some time to systematically set it out in a coherent way, preferably in a book or blog post (no one is asking you to become a celebrity -- very weird that you think this is the natural outcome of writing out your argument). If you can't put a coherent argument together, perhaps best to leave off this sort of discussion until you can, since you are coming off as a wind up merchant.

No, OP, we live in terrifying times because our democracy is threatened by actual sexual abusers in positions of power, who are then easy to blackmail- Epstein style.

I don't understand how it's possible to have any kind of therapy without revisiting memories? It's necessary.

Apologies

I didn’t really word my post very well

Obviously therapy is going to include talking about feelings and memories

The problem is when therapy aims to “recover memories”, whether due to a belief that memories are repressed by the mind and instead retained at a cellular level, by the body or whether the therapist and client simply embark on a memory hunt together.

In therapy memories will surface from time to time, however they may be “contaminated” in various ways, often entirely by accident.

They can be real memories of personal experiences combined with elements of memories from films, books or conversations with friends or family.

As you correctly pointed out, memories are an inexact thing.

If (and it’s a big “if”) memories are repressed by the mind and retained in the body then there is no evidence that they can be released, remembered and played back like an accurate video of what actually happened years ago.

The method that psychoanalysts use, free association, (in which the client talks about whatever comes into their mind) can cause memories to arise. Of course there is a question about whether they were ever actually “repressed” or just put away in the mind’s storage system (however that works). There is also the issue of whether they are memories, dreams, fantasies and imaginings or a combination of these things.

In my experience people, whether in a clinical setting or an ordinary one, tend to recall memories fairly spontaneously and in an uninhibited manner. Most people swear that their memories are accurate, but as soon as anyone starts to study memories and the science and research surrounding them, they realise that memories are not perfect or exact ever.

Certain models of therapy including “parts therapies” such as IFS are interesting to me due to
a) their popularity with controversial / abusive organisations many refer to as “cults” and abusive therapists
b) the frequency with which they generate false memories of sexual crimes, (including of satanic / sadistic ritual abuse) often resulting in the client becoming alienated from their family of origin and identifying as a multiple "system"

This is a big subject.

This is Teal Swan (real name Mary Teal Bosworth), an extremely controversial woman who claims to be a half human / half alien “spiritual catalyst” and who many people call a dangerous cult leader. Teal Swan identifies as a survivor of satanic ritual abuse. She also claims to be a tantric educator and energy healer.
This is Teal’s video about “parts work” (of which IFS is but one model) that she recommends to her thousands of followers

for context..

The wonderful Dr Todd Grande (I really like his videos) critically appraises Teal Swan

If I get memories back from my DV years through IFS I will be thrilled. Whether or not they are true really doesn’t matter. I would just like some memories of my kids during those years rather than mostly a big gap.

I am so sorry to hear that you endured DV. There are types of therapy that can give you new, positive memories to replace the old ones. I would advise caution however. Do you really want to knowingly put yourself in the hands of a therapist who can create false memories?

If a therapist can actually do this (and I believe that they can) how could you trust your own recollections? How could you be sure that you would not be manipulated by someone who does not have your best interests at heart?

In my experience of trauma (and this is something I have significant experience of) mourning / grieving is extremely important. I need to cry every now and then. I need to remember what I have lost. Trauma is all about losses, loss of a sense of self, loss of confidence, loss of feeling safe, loss of all kinds of things. I find that if I make time to grieve and have just a bit of support from friendly people from t time to time, I get by OK.

Sometimes I need to get out in nature. Sometimes I need to exercise to the point of exhaustion and then, in the recovery period following it, the emotional pain hits me like waves and I let it - I feel it and cry. Sometimes I need to watch a sad film, listen to music or even to dance and cry at the same time.

I have had some good therapy many years ago that helped me. There are good therapists out there. I would advise extreme caution over parts therapies. I can write more about this very soon.

I hope you find something that works for you and can help you live well and be happy.

No, OP, we live in terrifying times because our democracy is threatened by actual sexual abusers in positions of power, who are then easy to blackmail- Epstein style.

These things are not mutually exclusive. It is not an either - or thing. False memories, familial alienation and the abuse of vulnerable adults and children are all features of brainwashing, blackmailing, grooming sex cults.

In my next post I will post about manipulation of the masses, false accusations, scapegoating and misogyny. And yoga.

Yoga is it really a suitable therapy for trauma?

What about tantra and tantric yoga? Should yoga be funded on the NHS?

Certain organisations have been campaigning for yoga (and even “tantra”) to be funded on the NHS

This 2014 conference is of relevance

Yoga and Health: Research and Practice
An international conference

Confer April 2014

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140429131049/www.confer.uk.com/yoga2014/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20140429131049/www.confer.uk.com/yoga2014/index.html

I have alerted readers to the organisation Confer on previous occasions, the above conference promoting yoga is of special interest.

Further details of the event via this link

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140311001103/confer.uk.com/yoga2014/yoga-programme.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20140311001103/confer.uk.com/yoga2014/yoga-programme.html

When I originally archived this page there was a Dru Yoga logo on the page, I can now only see an empty box with a question mark in it. I have a screen shot of the page so if readers cannot see the logo let me know and I’ll find the screen shot.

The below link is to an archived blog page containing various 1st person reports of experiences of students of Dru Yoga and the associated spiritual organisation the Life Foundation and its founder Mansuhk (Manny) Patel.

Some former members allege that Dru Yoga / the Life Foundation is in fact a sex cult. Various serious allegations are made against its leader.

Other posters claim that they have discovered healing and a wonderful community of love and support.

Curious readers can read the thread and the various different accounts, positive and negative, and make up their own minds.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20181215144810/acatsroar.blogspot.com/2009/04/am-i-small-part-of-damn-cult.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20181215144810/acatsroar.blogspot.com/2009/04/am-i-small-part-of-damn-cult.html

There have been various critical news reports about Dru Yoga and the Life Foundation over the years, however with the exception of 2 news items, they are not available to read on the internet - at least not as far as I can find.

2 articles archived here
culteducation.com/component/itpgooglesearch/search.html?gsquery=dru+yoga

The Cult Awareness Institute in the UK has an archive of news items about this organisation should readers or journalists wish to discover more and access archival material.

One fascinating aspect of searching the WayBack machine for “dru yoga” is that it returns many sites with druyogacult in the URL. None of these sites are critical of Dru Yoga, on the contrary they are all promoting Dru Yoga as a wonderful thing.

web.archive.org/web/*/dru%20yoga

Readers can make of this what they will.

I always find it interesting when an online search for a the name of a controversial religious / personal development organisation accused of cultic abuses followed by the word “cult” returns lots of webpages saying “Is (insert name of controversial organisation here) a cult??!” followed by various claims that of course it is not a cult, just misunderstood and the subject of smear campaigns by disgruntled former members. Alternatively, as seemed to have happened with the Dru Yoga search results, the word “cult” is used in a similar way as “cult film”, something that has become highly valued and appreciated by connoisseurs.

Another yoga teacher promoted by Confer is Amy Weintraub
Weintraub ollaborates and teaches with Richard Schwartz of IFS and is a practitioner of IFS and Yoga Nidra
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200728113725/www.confer.uk.com/biogs/biog_weintraub.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200728113725/www.confer.uk.com/biogs/biog_weintraub.html

She is also an associate of Bessel van der Kolk who defended him following his ousting from the Trauma Center for bullying colleagues.

I am always interested when an IFS practitioner combines IFS with a controversial model of yoga. Yoga Nidra is extremely controversial for its association with the Satyananda (aka Bihar school of yoga) that was caught up in a huge child sexual abuse and coverup scandal.

Interested readers may wish to read a mumsnet thread about this very subject here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/yoga/3385527-Yoga-Nidra-I-love-it

and the cult education archive material here

culteducation.com/group/1316-satyananda-yoga-ashram/28138-australia-s-underage-yoga-sex-cult-the-survivors-speak-out.html

www.culteducation.com/group/1316-satyananda-yoga-ashram.html

Another yoga teacher promoted by Confer is Professor Sat Bir Khalsa
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140312062623/confer.uk.com/biogs/biog_khalsa.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20140312062623/confer.uk.com/biogs/biog_khalsa.html
This man is a teacher and promoter of 3HO, a kundalini / tantric yoga school founded by Yogi Bhajan, widely criticised as a cult, including by the cult expert Richard Ofshe.

There is a long page about 3HO on the cult education website

culteducation.com/group/795-3ho.html

The sections on criminal indictments and litigation are especially interesting.

Can yoga be used for political purposes? Can it be used to manipulate the masses?

In India a toxic combination of yoga, Hindu nationalism, yoga, false allegations of child abduction and the “murder" of cows (usually targeted against members of the Muslim minority) have been used for political purposes.

One of the central figures behind the resulting lynchings is a famous yogi and spiritual leader. He is also a misogynist of some notoriety.

I would recommend the following , although please be warned, the following material includes horrific scenes of violence

Vox India’s cow vigilantes - this documentary shows the false accusations and resulting lynchings spreading like a virus

The Making of Lynchistan - a very important documentary

Yogi Adityanath, a controversial Hindu spiritual leader and yoga advocate who according to the above Vox news report, was centrally involved in instigating cow related vigilantism, has made declarations about the role of women that readers may be interested in.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170331025807/newsable.asianetnews.tv/india/7-controversial-statements-of-yogi-adityanath-on-women-minorities" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20170331025807/newsable.asianetnews.tv/india/7-controversial-statements-of-yogi-adityanath-on-women-minorities

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170319111507/indiatoday.intoday.in/story/yogi-adityanath-muslims-bjp-kashmir-love-jihad/1/380112.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20170319111507/indiatoday.intoday.in/story/yogi-adityanath-muslims-bjp-kashmir-love-jihad/1/380112.html

His views on yoga
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170320210843/www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/yogi-adityanath-says-those-who-avoid-yoga-can-leave-india/article7297946.ece" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20170320210843/www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/yogi-adityanath-says-those-who-avoid-yoga-can-leave-india/article7297946.ece

As part of the South Asia Centre's coverage of the 2019 Indian Elections, Dr Shakuntala Banaji (Associate Professor & Director of Graduate Studies) from the Department of Media and Communications explains the relationship between the mainstream media and social media the how they together can legitimise mob violence in India.

Readers may wonder how all of this relates to cults in the UK and other territories outside India. I will address this in another post soon to follow

You still haven’t offered any critique of the theory of IFS, or indeed any other sort of therapy.

Your posts are still just a bunch of links to videos about random people.

I don‘t buy into the idea that people who were not sexually abused suddenly create a memory of having been abused. Obviously, the memories will not be photographically or chronologically precise, but this whole narrative of ‚nothing ever happened, I only played soccer with that kid, and now after therapy she/he accuses me‘ is ridiculous.

Your antipathy to psychotherapy is starting to sound not unlike Scientology.

'In 1966 Hubbard declared all-out war on psychiatry, telling Scientologists that "We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in England, a murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one." He committed the Church of Scientology to the goal of eradicating psychiatry in 1969, announcing that "Our war has been forced to become 'To take over absolutely the field of mental healing on this planet in all forms.'"

There’s someone with a grammar thread going at the mo. If you ask nicely maybe they’d do ‘how to analyse sources, create a hypothesis and evidence it’ thread as this thread reads like tin hat conspiracy nonsense. I have no idea who any of these people are and no skin in the game but you seem intent on smearing them and I cannot, from your posts, fathom why.

You still haven’t offered any critique of the theory of IFS, or indeed any other sort of therapy.

Please accept my sincere apologies.

I thought that the article describing it as dangerous, the video of that victim of IFS therapy at Castlewood crying and talking about how traumatic IFS was for her, the news clips about multiple vulnerable women being treated using IFS and “recovering” memories of satanic ritual abuse and my pointing out that the IFS creator Richard (aka Dick) Schwartz is in a long term business relationship with the paedophile sexual predator Marc Gafni might have inspired you to at least be curious and maybe do a bit of digging yourself.

Even if that wasn’t enough for you I had imagined that the video of half alien / half human “spiritual catalyst”, energy healer, tantric educator and SRA survivor Teal Swan enthusing about the importance of “parts work” might inspire your curiosity. Teal is one of many fascinating cultists who promote and use “parts work”. There is so much more to share and I was hoping that you might be curious and try to discover stuff for yourself.

I always prefer it when people discover things for themselves. I always have plenty of ammunition in reserve for this reason.

Also I find it fascinating just how far apologists for the quacks and charlatans ruining so many lives with recovered memory therapy are prepared to go before they acknowledge that there is a problem. How many ruined lives, how many associations with real paedophiles, how many real cults does it take?

This thread seems to answer that questions doesn’t it?

I think I could produce a mountain of cult leaders, paedophiles, vulnerable survivors of bad therapy and still the “true believers” cling on to their entrenched beliefs and just keep trying to not see what is in front of heir faces.

I don‘t buy into the idea that people who were not sexually abused suddenly create a memory of having been abused. Obviously, the memories will not be photographically or chronologically precise, but this whole narrative of ‚nothing ever happened, I only played soccer with that kid, and now after therapy she/he accuses me‘ is ridiculous.

So what do you make of the many victims of recovered memory therapy, including IFS, who appear in the videos I linked to?

They all describe experiences of being vulnerable and stressed or struggling with an eating disorder, relationship problem, postpartum depression or some other problem.

They enter therapy with a therapist (usually associated with the ISSTD) at which point they have no memories of being sexually abused. Following some kind of “parts therapy”, often combined with the prescription of experimental / dangerous doses of drugs they “recover” memories of incest and of being involved in cannibalistic satanic cults.

These are not memories of one off or occasional events, but “memories” that throughout their childhoods they were raped every day or were even themselves involved in eating babies and conducting satanic rituals.

They come to believe that they have multiple personalities or “parts” the therapists call “ alters”. Their mental health goes into a steady decline and their families fall apart. The terrible “memories” keep coming and, encouraged by the therapists, they accuse loving parents of terrible sexual crimes. Some lose access to their children, others, terrified of the cults they now believe control their lives, allow the therapists to hospitalise their young children to save them from the satanists.

They are given more drugs, more therapy and are warned that they will die if they leave therapy. Those desperate to leave are told that it is their satanic handlers manipulating them to want to leave to protect the cult.

When the cover on their insurance policies runs out (and only then) they stop therapy, they stop experiencing having “alters” and realise that they had been brainwashed and abused by manipulative therapists.

By this time the victims of recovered memory therapy have, at the encouragement of their therapists, publicly accused their parents of being pedophiles or satanists, causing families to be torn apart. Some lost custody of their children following false confessions of being themselves involved in satanic child abuse. In at least one case their children were subjected to the same abusive, experimental therapies and drug treatments causing long term trauma.

This is what these people are saying happened to them. The poor little kids who spent their early, tender years being experimented upon by a network of deranged quacks were depicted in one of the documentaries I linked to, then in their teenage years, describing how terrifying the experience was, how they were coached and bullied into falsely confessing to being involved in satanic cults and how they have nightmares about the hospital and the therapists to this very day.

Do you think that all these people are lying?

Do you believe that the recovered memories of being involved in a baby munching satanic cult are true?

Really? Seriously?

Are you going to do to them what some posters here have done to me? Are you going to accuse them of being rape apologists?

Is this how you respond to other people when they give accounts of being abused, bullied, manipulated and traumatised by narcissists and psychopaths or does the fact that the abusers are mental health professionals give them a free pass or something?

Your antipathy to psychotherapy is starting to sound not unlike Scientology.

scraping bottom barrel

I see you have had the good sense not to link Maggie Oliver to Wedger as you did on another thread. You seem far too keen to 'expose' (smear) whistle blowers for my liking.

this is like shooting fish in a barrel it really is

Jon Wedger and Maggie Oliver sitting in a tree….

If Maggie Oilver is no longer involved with the dangerous conspiraloon Wedger she needs to speak out now.

I'll post later today if I can - running late

Parts are not alters. You don’t seem to know even basic facts about therapy. There have always been parts in therapeutic methods - back to Jung and through gestalt.

I don’t know what this ‘true believer’ label is about. It seems like you are trying to suggest that the readers of this thread, are somehow invested in a bunch of treatment centres in the US, which clearly they’re not. The only link I’ve looked at that you’ve posted is the MN one on yoga, where a bunch of posters are discussing their yoga classes and you barge in and start accusing them of not caring about child rape.

I'd gently suggest not responding to this thread anymore as OP is clearly not doing too well. I hope there is someone you can talk to in real life for support, Hoodathunkit.

Parts are not alters. You don’t seem to know even basic facts about therapy. There have always been parts in therapeutic methods - back to Jung and through gestalt.

This is Richard (Dick) Schwartz, the creator of IFS therapy, explaining that “alters” and what he calls “parts” are the same thing.

You only have to watch the first 40 seconds of the video.

You’re welcome

I don’t know what this ‘true believer’ label is about. It seems like you are trying to suggest that the readers of this thread, are somehow invested in a bunch of treatment centres in the US, which clearly they’re not

The ISSTD and its associated organisation the ESTD boast many UKk therapists as members.

Granted the documentaries that I posted were based on American abuses, but there is plenty of the same kind of abuse happening all over the world, including in the UK

I'll post some UK vidoes up next, before more yoga related material

The only link I’ve looked at that you’ve posted is the MN one on yoga, where a bunch of posters are discussing their yoga classes and you barge in and start accusing them of not caring about child rape.

Oh you mean this thread here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/yoga/3385527-Yoga-Nidra-I-love-it

Thank you so much for pointing it out

Interested readers can check it out themselves. I believe it will help them to understand my position and yours.

I'd gently suggest not responding to this thread anymore as OP is clearly not doing too well. I hope there is someone you can talk to in real life for support, Hoodathunkit.

LOL

Are you my lying, scamming, manipulative, gaslighting psychopath of a former therapist?

You sound hideously familiar

Please, by all means, stop posting here if you like. I am not forcing anyone to read anything I post and if readers don't want to read my posts they can just not read them. :)

The 1996 Strange Days documentary series explored a range of issues that are central to my research and interests. Readers interested in how we got the the insane Orwellian world we inhabit today will find much to interest them. So many leads and rabbit holes worthy of further research - I am definitely a fan of Catherine Bennett.

Strange Days episode 1

In this episode Catherine Bennett explores the British pubic’s growing interest in the paranormal and the embracing of strange pseudoscientific theories. The episode offers leads into how public money was thrown at supernatural solutions to all kinds of problems.

Strange Days Episode 2

In this episode Catherine Bennett explores the fascinating world of quackery.

There is lots of fascinating material here, but of extreme interest to me is the appearance of the former Head of Ethic of the British Medical Foundation Dr Linda Fleur Fisher (the “therapist” who stole Carol Felstead’s property soon after her mysterious death and attempted to have her illegally cremated without her families knowledge) @ 8.43. I will comment on her brief appearance and comments at a later date. The series also explores energy therapy, body therapy and “removing blockages”, all of which readers here will be familiar with.

Strange Days Episode Three

In this fascinating episode, which benefits from repeated viewing, Catherine Bennett casts a critical eye over various models of psychotherapy, with a particular emphasis on recovered memories of satanic ritual abuse. This really does benefit from repeated viewings and includes appearances from various therapists of concern including Valerie Sinason (based in the UK but also involved in the ISSTD) and none other than Professor Andrew Samuels.

This is a fascinating look into the world of SRA true believers - 1990s documentary featuring some of the most nortorious witch hunters

my bedtime now so that's all from me tonight

A Conversation with Dr Kevin Felstead, Director of Communications, British False Memory Society

the below video is an important interview with my friend Dr Kevin Felstead, brother of Carol Felstead, who died in mysterious circumstances following recovered memory therapy.

It was such a massive relief for me to be able to chat with Kevin from time to time given the bizarre and incredible nature of what happened to me in terms of therapeutic abuse.

I completely understand how anyone, whether a mental health professional or just a regular member of the public, might consider my experiences to be extremely weird to the extent that they might consider me to be deluded.

The therapist who abused me very bady and other mental health professionals who I have seen over the years are connected to the ISSTD and other cults, and are from the same network that abused Carol Felstead.

I have also seen other mental health professionals who I believe are not connected to this network. Some seemed aware that some of their colleagues are quacks and in cults. I believe that, just as with the GIDS issue around children, there are many decent, rational professionals who are scared to speak out because the "true believers" are in positions of power.

Some professionals are completely ignorant of the satanic panic and the dangers of recovered memory therapies. The professionals in the latter group I think considered me to be deluded, which I can understand. I might draw the same conclusion if I was in their situation and was unaware of the widespread nature of dubious therapies and quackery in the mental health services.

I am so very grateful for the support from some posters here and from Mumsnet in letting this thread remain. I have so much more to post.

I am also grateful to the various very critical posters on this thread. Their posts reflect my experiences in the real world on so many distressing and disappointing occasions.

Anyway, I would recommend readers check out this video of Kevin talking about his family's experiences following the shocking news of Carol's death and the subsequent events which, if they appeared in a film as a plot device, would be considered too incredible to pass muster.

Look, OP, it’s really clear you have had a bad experience with a therapist. Not all therapy is good therapy. Not all therapists are good people, but the majority are well motivated and ethical. I don’t know what you are trying to achieve by starting this thread other than venting about what you view as potentially abusive therapy. If you feel you want redress concerning your therapist, consider approaching their professional body if they were in one.

I have explored tantric techniques with a partner and we got a lot out of it.

I have also read 'the Body Keeps the Score' as part of a course I had to do. I thought it was good.

However I'd never get a yoni massage.

I'm not sure what your point is. Am I to boycott this book now, because Bessel Van der Kolk's wife knew of someone who did yoni massage?

In the video I posted above Kevin Felstead talks about the networks of therapists who abused his sister Carol (they are part of the same network of therapists who abused me).

At 1.56.10 Kevin describes a common feature of recovered memory therapy; the transgression of professional and ethical boundaries. This is something I have experienced myself and also something I have witnessed in relation to the abuse of other vulnerable clients by abusive therapists.

Kevin goes on to name some of the therapists who abused Carol. I have a LOT to share about this network, about their abuses and their connections to cults and paedophiles.

Let us start with the first person Kevin mentions, Dr Fleur Linda Fisher, former head of Ethics and the British Medical Foundation.

Fleur Fisher can be heard in the below audio clippe falsely claiming to be Carol’s next of kin, persuading Carol’s insurance company to extend Carol’s insurance to her (Dr Fisher) so she could drive Carol’s car to her home in Plymouth following the 7/7 bombings in London and making horrific untrue statements about Carol’s real family to the call handler. Even if these statements were true their disclosure under these circumstances constitutes a gross breach of ethics and of Carol’s privacy. The phone call was made in the days following Carol’s death, however Carol was still entitled to privacy and to not have her car commandeered by doctor Fisher. Fisher had also emptied Carol’s flat of her personal possessions and disposed of them, something that she had no right to do and that was theft from a deceased person. She then attempted to have Carol cremated. Illegally and without the knowledge of her family.

justiceforcarol.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/phonerecording.mp3

A little more about all round fascinating person Dr Fleur Fisher

Fisher is a former director of a company called Privacy International, an anti-surveillance think tank

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04354366/officers

Of course, given that she has been busted committing various appalling acts via the audio recording in my above post is it understandable that Fisher doesn't like surveillance.

Her desire for privacy seems to be located in self-interest as she demonstrates a shocking lack of concern for the privacy of Carol Felstead and the Felstead family who she casually defames throughout the above recording

Given Fisher's cavalier attitude towards the privacy of others it is very peculiar that she is highly active within various anti-surveillance organisations, as can be discerned from Companies House lists of directors

I would like to draw the attention of readers to another video titled Avoiding the Privacy Apocalypse, featuring two of Dr Fisher’s associates, Simon Davies and Gus Hosein of Privacy International. Pay attention to Simon Davies's appearance. Simon Davies is a common name and I need readers to note what this man looks like and what his voice sounds like.

The Foundation for Information Policy Research is an interesting organisation of which Fleur Fisher is also a trustee

the advisory council members include:

Simon Davies - founder of Privacy International

Phil Booth - national coordinator of a pro-privacy company called NO2ID (Fisher also a director)

Gus Hosein - close associate of Simon Davies - director of MEDOCONFIDENTIAL LTD

Teresa Catherine (Terri) Dowty - director of MEDOCONFIDENTIAL LTD

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160611122759/www.fipr.org/trustees.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20160611122759/www.fipr.org/trustees.html

there are other network links of interest, but these are complex networks and I’ll keep it relatively simple for now

So, in addition to her work as a consultant in medical ethics, a position that her appalling treatment of Carol Felstead and her family demonstrates is a role she is significantly unsuitable for, Fleur Fisher is an anti-surveliance / pro-privacy activist, another role that does not seem appropriate given her activities in relation to Carol Felstead.

At this point I would like to draw the attention of readers to one of Dr Fisher’s associates, Simon Davies, the founder of Privacy International.

He has been in trouble with the police of late.

Global manhunt for Australian human rights advocate accused of running a sick child sex ring from his Kings Cross 'refuge' centre for homeless boys

Simon Davies ran Homeless Children's Association in Darlinghurst from 1981-83

The 63-year-old allegedly abused dozens of homeless boys over six years

Police have launched an international manhunt for Davies in 2016

He is believed to have gone back to the UK in 1993 and has not returned since

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7768981/Human-rights-advocate-Simon-Davies-accused-sexually-abusing-dozens-young-boys-care.html

www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/police-issue-global-arrest-warrant-for-simon-gordon-davies-over-child-abuse-allegations/news-story/04e1a4e8885819a6a6c74d588307a773

also see

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As some readers here seem to be connected to the same networks as Dr Fleur Fisher I would like them to keep their eyes peeled for Simon Davies and to call the police if you see him as it is possible that he is hiding in the UK