Posie Parker at Speaker's Corner earlier today

[SunsetBeetch]

Enjoy. Ovaries of steel, this woman.

Speaking as someone who's also been called a Trump supporter and who isn't even high profile like Posie is, I don't think 'there's a video somewhere but I cba looking' is good enough.

So I came across...

Posie Parker is a Crybaby for Trump

It doesn't contain any evidence of Posie really being a "Trump supporter" but apparently she is willing to admit that there are certain good things about him. That doesn't have to mean much of course, as you could detest a politician, and still think they had a couple of good policies.

Anyway, if you like completely obnoxious self-righteous far-left commentary, (think Owen Jones turned up to "11"), then the above video is brilliant commentary on Posie Parker.

Ive just found something on twitter tallwhitepine

She said that on the issue she cares about....then trump is her man

Its the stopped clock thing again

Agree with someone on ONE thing, and thats it.....you are a massive supporter of that person

Oh zinco beat me to it

And ive not been on this thread as i really don’t have an opinion on posie parker

But im tired of the ‘oh there is evidence...i just can’t be bothered to show you’ that keeps happening on these threads

@womanity

Iirc, and there’s no guarantee I do, the Posie supports trump thing was her pointing out that Biden was going to be very anti-women’s rights.

Yeah....

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

I think Trump supporter might be the new ‘nazi’

It’s nearly as bad as ‘white woman’

Considering that many Trump supporters are currently being investigated, charged and convicted AS Nazis and other white supremacist groups, this is much more serious than some people seem willing to acknowledge.

It was Trump supporters who planned a kidnapping of the female Governor of Michigan.

It is Trump supporters who wave confederate flags (a symbol of an enemy of the US government).

It is Trump supporters who claim the last election was stolen.

The FBI and other law enforcement groups have documented a rise in these groups and call them domestic terrorists.

If you don't think that undermining the democratic process of the largest western representative democracy in the world isn't a problem, I have a bridge to sell you.

Not all Trump voters are the same as the Trump supporters I noted above, but please don't dismiss serious attacks on our government.

Not all Trump voters are the same as the Trump supporters I noted above, but please don't dismiss serious attacks on our government.

It's not my impression that it's people in the UK who are engaged in understating the gravity of Jan 6. I still can't quite grasp the scale of the denial of what happened and the lack of accountability for some individuals and groups.

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

Not all Trump voters are the same as the Trump supporters I noted above, but please don't dismiss serious attacks on our government.

It's not my impression that it's people in the UK who are engaged in understating the gravity of Jan 6. I still can't quite grasp the scale of the denial of what happened and the lack of accountability for some individuals and groups.

I agree

I spent those days like this 😱

Ive never seen anything like it and I doubt i will again (or rather i really really hope not)

But I honestly don’t understand why saying ‘trump like macdonalds and so do i’ would make me a trump supporter or a trump voter when I actually think the man is deranged and a danger to just about everyone

Considering that many Trump supporters are currently being investigated, charged and convicted AS Nazis and other white supremacist groups, this is much more serious than some people seem willing to acknowledge.
Oh for all my joshing I think it's serious Delphinium - it's why I was so pissed off when it happened to me on here, and why I'm sensitive about it still, and why I think posters who point and shout 'Trump supporter' and then say they can't be arsed looking when asked for for evidence can't complain if they get a grilling

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

Not all Trump voters are the same as the Trump supporters I noted above, but please don't dismiss serious attacks on our government.

It's not my impression that it's people in the UK who are engaged in understating the gravity of Jan 6. I still can't quite grasp the scale of the denial of what happened and the lack of accountability for some individuals and groups.

Thank you. One, I'm terrified that current leaders in Republican Party refuse to hold them accountable.

This is why I really wish Posie hadn't commented as she did on the insurrection attempt. She had no idea what she was talking about and it has undermined her very excellent message on women and girl's rights.

If you need me to post the video where she does comment on the insurrection attempt, I can. But, frankly, we've probably talked about it too much on this thread.

If I were Posie's PR rep, I'd advise she either take down that video, or leave it up with a disclaimer that now, with clearer information such as US courts, video footage and law enforcement has shown, she has changed her mind about her initial assessment of Jan. 6.

It was Trump supporters who planned a kidnapping of the female Governor of Michigan.

About one of them, according to Wikipedia...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot

He expressed support for the Russia investigation origins counter-narrative and opposition to the country's current immigration policy, and he believed the investigations into President Trump constituted an "uprising".[25][46] However, he also included Trump's name in a grievance-filled hit-list of politicians that he wanted to hang, which he posted on Facebook in late June....

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But anyway, Trump didn't tell anyone to start kidnapping people, so I'm not sure it means much even if they were Trump supporters.

As for Republicans not accepting election results, here is Hillary Clinton implying that her election was stolen from her... Russian propaganda interference or whatever...

I hear you all...yes, it's jarring to get finger pointed as a right-wing Trump apologist and it's utterly unfair...probably why TRAs use that finger pointing because it works.

I see Posie as both a victim of this finger pointing and also a bit carelessly complicit by not addressing it. I think any experienced PR/communication professional who loves Posie's message and genuinely wants her to succeed like I do would agree with me that Posie is now a public figure and rules of engagement are different.

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

Ive just found something on twitter tallwhitepine

She said that on the issue she cares about....then trump is her man

Its the stopped clock thing again

Agree with someone on ONE thing, and thats it.....you are a massive supporter of that person

Thanks Rufus, I found the same thing. It's not quite as damning as I expected. May be that's why no one linked it?

@Delphinium20

I hear you all...yes, it's jarring to get finger pointed as a right-wing Trump apologist and it's utterly unfair...probably why TRAs use that finger pointing because it works.

I see Posie as both a victim of this finger pointing and also a bit carelessly complicit by not addressing it. I think any experienced PR/communication professional who loves Posie's message and genuinely wants her to succeed like I do would agree with me that Posie is now a public figure and rules of engagement are different.

I think that's fair, although I can't imagine a PR schooled Posie somehow!

As for Republicans not accepting election results, here is Hillary Clinton implying that her election was stolen from her... Russian propaganda interference or whatever

It wasn't just Hillary who recognized Russian interference- it was our own CIA and intelligence gathering who reported this. apnews.com/article/d094918c0421b872eac7dc4b16e613c7

She didn't say it was stolen...it was influenced by Putin's interference.

Sorry for the derail on 2016...I have in my bucket list a visit to Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park, I'll have to time it when you lovely UK witches are speaking up for women and girls.

I come fully vaccinated!

@Floisme

Speaking as someone who's also been called a Trump supporter and who isn't even high profile like Posie is, I don't think 'there's a video somewhere but I cba looking' is good enough.

oh well shrugs if youve both been called trump supporters, then you probably arent going to see that sort of thing as particularly negative are you. Its a mumsnet thread, not an academic essay, and plenty of high profile feminists are distancing themselves. Go tell Julie Bindel that shes not good enough either ffs

She didn't say it was stolen...

That's the exact word she used in the video I gave.

Well thank you Branleuse, you couldn't have illustrated my point better if you'd tried.

Disappointed that stealthSquirrelnutkin post was deleted, I read it earlier and was coming back to comment on it, but it’s gone

I’m still not clear on why I have to endorse every last thing that Posie, or anyone else for that matter, has said at any point in their career, before I can venture to suppose that I agree with them. The policing is tiresome. She says and does some great stuff, she occasionally oversteps, but she definitely gets shit done, so hurray for her!

All this flimflam about suburban housewives and accusations that people should be put off a political movement because of the actions of one person (when that person doesn’t even align themself with that movement) is a distraction. By those lights, where would Caitlin Jenner fit, as a trans republican? Do all transactivists therfore endorse gun owning and forced birth? That would be absurd.

oh well shrugs if youve both been called trump supporters, then you probably arent going to see that sort of thing as particularly negative are you

Of course they find it negative

Its not fucking positive is it?

I know lots of you do not want to accept how right-wing and racist she is. But there is lots of evidence. For a start calling for men with guns to defend women's toilets.
Posie does not have widespread support because most people can see her views are pretty abhorent.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/10/15/gender-critical-posie-parker-interview-jean-francois-gariepy-mumsnet/

uk.news.yahoo.com/gender-critical-feminist-posie-parker-120619388.html

@Sophoclesthefox you really think it is okay to support a racist because you agree with her on one issue?
Bloody hell.

I’m still not clear on why I have to endorse every last thing that Posie, or anyone else for that matter, has said at any point in their career, before I can venture to suppose that I agree with them. The policing is tiresome. She says and does some great stuff, she occasionally oversteps, but she definitely gets shit done, so hurray for her!

All this flimflam about suburban housewives and accusations that people should be put off a political movement because of the actions of one person (when that person doesn’t even align themself with that movement) is a distraction.

This!

It seems like purity circle that are ever tightening.

I don't agree with many, if any, prominent feminists 100%. That is the way of the world.