The Guardian job cuts

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A lot comments standing up for women. What was that phrase again, go woke.....?

I love that there are a sting of comments suggesting the OJ should be the one whose job they can cut.

I'm a woman. They hate women. Why on earth would I return to paying for that?

Those comments are pretty damning. Encouraging to see so many of them.

The pandemic has hit newspapers hard in general, however. Reach (which owns the Mirror and the Express) has also made lots of staff redundant.

Amusingly, also two or three replies accusing The Guardian of being transphobic too...

Does anyone like Owen Jones? I mean I think there are a lot of great writers at the Guardian and I actually have some sympathy with their need to pander to the US wokebrains. But every cell in my body revolts at the idea of contributing to Owen Jones' salary. It's simply not going to happen.

I do wonder what would have happened if they'd gone left instead of woke. They're never going to be able to outwoke the heinous US media anyway. I'm sure it would have shrunk their audience but it might have been more sustainable long term, they might even have managed to become the voice of an important movement instead of scampering to catch up in the wake of wokeness. There's a real need for a proper left-wing media outlet that defends working class people, free speech, women's rights and other fascist dogwhistles.

(Yes, even "working class" is a dogwhistle according to the woke cult. How do they keep thinking they're the good guys?)

I do fear that it will be the better staff who will go. I used to buy the paper I do still read online but only my favourites now as there is an increasing wall of crap.

What they don’t realise is that left wing working class and lower middle class people are realistic. Their core readership are people who work in caring professions where they see the sharp end of the crap they advocate.

Maybe they are saving money to provide repairations to the descendants of slavery. Given that the paper was founded on wealth inextricably intertwined with exploitation of slaves, but somehow I am not holding my breath.

As much as their articles about women piss me off, it's the bigger picture for me.

I first became disillusioned with them when they started erasing perfectly reasonable and serious comments from their idiotic feminism articles. And then started disallowing comments at all. But I thought maybe it was just a bit of a blind spot.

With their treatment of gender issues, a much bigger problem became clear. It wasn't just that they had some stupid articles but stupid people, they were clearly suppressing one POV, systematically. And not in the comments mainly, but in terms of things like reporting the facts, leaving out certain stories altogether, etc.

Which means - how can I trust their reporting in general, their fact checking? I know they are doing this with one topic - what about the topics that I am relying on them to inform me about?

No way I am paying to be the target of propaganda.

I hope the handful of decent journos still left on their books - Hadley et al. - can find a decent home for their excellent stuff. But as for the rest of them... oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

Just wondering about the best way to download the recipes that I've bookmarked there over the years.

It wasn't just that they had some stupid articles but stupid people, they were clearly suppressing one POV, systematically

We all have our peak Guardian stories. This is mine:

www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2018/01/marie-dean-story-shows-there-s-no-simple-answer-how-we-treat-transgender

The thing that always pops into my head when I think of The Guardian and its coverage of gender issues was that hand-wringing piece about a trans woman who has been convicted of burglary and had been placed in the male prison. Oh, the humanity. The writer had left out that what this male had actually done was steal teenage girls' underwear and filmed himself wanking into them. IIRC, I think one of those girls attempted suicide.

I hope writers like Hadley, Suzanne Moore, Rhiannon Lucy Cossett and Jonathan Freedland thrive whatever happens to The Guardian though.

I have nearly reached peak Guardian multiple times. It was the Billy Bragg article that finished me off, though. Just the irony of a great liberal newspaper attacking freedom of speech.

I realised they were out of touch when I read a piece about how everyone tries (Illegal) drug. Now I am I not naive but there are still a significant proportion of people of all ages who don’t and who don’t see the whole drug industry as harmless fun as it was portrayed. It made me realise what a insulated Privileged middle class world they lived in and how little they looked over the walls.

I really wonder when all these organisations/parties will start to do the calculations. We're a hell of a lot of subscriptions, buying power, votes. Wake up you dumb bastards

Their (non) coverage of Cologne was the end of my patience with them. They deserve to go broke.

this was my peak Guardian moment. This sympathetic portrayal of a white man who launched a vicious unprovoked attack on a black man. Ralph Knibbs was almost murdered by Jeska who attended the meeting with the express intention of murdering Knibbs - according to this report it's because UK Athletics were not sufficiently sensitive to Jeska. Because we all know we must be sensitive to violent men...

All the other tick tick tick boxes are there - evangelical Christian parents, gender non conforming child, suspicions of autism, studied Queer Theory at Leeds, became a champion female athlete having been a mediocre male one, placed in a female prison...

Oh and no comments allowed.

I am sorry for the people losing their jobs at the Guardian but I haven't bought a copy since this article and I won't. Until they stop their betrayal of women and the truth. It may well be too late for them.

@Aesopfable

I realised they were out of touch when I read a piece about how everyone tries (Illegal) drug. Now I am I not naive but there are still a significant proportion of people of all ages who don’t and who don’t see the whole drug industry as harmless fun as it was portrayed. It made me realise what a insulated Privileged middle class world they lived in and how little they looked over the walls.

Oh, my gosh, yes.

This reminded me of my little sister, telling me when she was about 16, with great assurance and seriousness, that all teenagers experiment with sex.

She was so sure she was very worldly and knew of what she spoke.

Which means - how can I trust their reporting in general, their fact checking? I know they are doing this with one topic - what about the topics that I am relying on them to inform me about?

I can confirm that it's not just this one topic. Their coverage of higher education news and issues is hugely skewed and often contains outright falsehoods. I'm not just talking about the free speech / academic freedom coverage, but all of it. The problem is the proportion of columnists to real journalists. Virtually the entire publication consists of opinion pieces masquerading as news.

Their (non) coverage of Cologne was the end of my patience with them. They deserve to go broke.

Mine too. And their deliberate fudging of the numbers to suit their agenda.

@Antibles

Their (non) coverage of Cologne was the end of my patience with them. They deserve to go broke.

Totally agree - shocking and then that awful Gabi Hinscliff article eventually that blamed it on women having iPhones.

Fucking hell those comments on Twitter have made me roar 🤣🤣

Awww. Shame. They’ve been in shaky ground for a while now. Maybe google can put their hoof in their pouch and give them some $$$?

(Yes, even "working class" is a dogwhistle according to the woke cult. How do they keep thinking they're the good guys?)

Agreed. But when it's actual rape that's the dogwhistle, or that victims are told they're weaponising the experience or thinking or rationalising it on any other basis than on what the manosphere tells us, they've just about plumbed the depths to which humanity can sink.

I've been violated by males on more than one occasion and this was the most serious. The hell I'm going to stand meekly silent while men tell me how I should relate to an experience which was foisted on me by males in the first place.

I've lost a good few 'woke' colleague followers on Twitter for openly (well, vociferously) advocating for female victims of sexual violence on that exact basis. Good. It's better that people show me who they are.