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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pink news: "Disgusting transphobic lie" that 'only females get cervical cancer'

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CheeryTreeBlossom · 14/07/2020 23:15

According to PinkNews "UK's biggest cervical cancer charity shuts down disgustingly transphobic lie that 'only females get cervical cancer'"

I genuinely thought this was a parody account.
Honestly I think satire is dead now.

Pink news: "Disgusting transphobic lie" that 'only females get cervical cancer'
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NotBadConsidering · 15/07/2020 08:48

@FloralBunting

This is 100% part and parcel of the compromise some have been willing to make on the word 'woman'. It's fine, they said, what does it matter if we say TWAW, we'll just focus on the word 'female' and 'woman' can be a broader, cultural term that TW can be part of.

As was said repeatedly when this linguistic capitulation was first suggested, if you give up 'woman' in an attempt to keep 'female', you will be required to give up female too eventually. If we give up female and call ourselves Slomtrimpets, we will be required to cede that soon enough.

Please, wake up. There is no legitimate human rights battle that requires an oppressed class to relinquish their language. We are women, we are adult human females, and we are the only humans who can have a cervix or cervical cancer.

Great post Floral. This creep has been in happening for a while. I remember a certain cyclist claiming to be female last year and it’s becoming more common. It emboldens them.
DianasLasso · 15/07/2020 08:53

Everything Floral said.

As an aside, I'm not on twitter so look at everything in a web browser, and I've noticed (last week or so) that rather than listing numbers for replies, retweets and likes separately, they're now lumping replies and retweets into a single number. My inner conspiracy theorist is of course thinking "so they want to stop people calculating the 'ratio'!"

Can you still see all three separately if you actually have a twitter account?

AlCalavicci · 15/07/2020 08:58

@bluebluezoo
I agree it's a ridiculous photo, but more worrying is if there are any young woman or older ones that havent had a smear test and they see that it's either going to scare them off like fuck are they putting that microscope in me ! or when they do go to the docs they may think the test is been done wrong because a microscope isn't been used.
I would hope that any woman could ask or look it up on line before they go but I think that would not always be the case.
In either case it is irresponsible and misleading

Babdoc · 15/07/2020 08:58

The comments in response on Twitter are almost universally condemnatory, which is great cause for hope. Nobody is buying this science denying nonsense, thank goodness.
And as the critics are mainly male, they are not receiving the rape and death threats so familiar to women who challenge this dogma. Time and sunlight are all that’s needed to make people lose patience with this erasure of women’s rights to our own language and spaces. Hopefully at that point we can have a sensible discussion about third spaces, to accommodate the trans community without taking away women’s hard won freedoms.

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2020 08:59

This is the problem with telling kind social lies: the demands that everyone pretend just get bigger and bigger, and all words lose all meaning. Really sorry guys but the facts are going to have to be faced however you feel about them. You can say TWAW, but female is a biological fact, not a choice of identity. Only human biological females have cervixes. Some female people prefer to be known as men, which is their business, but it does nothing to change their femaleness or the fact they have a cervix. Some male people prefer to be known as women, which is their business, but it does nothing to change their maleness, and they do not have a cervix.

And your personal issues with reality and its unfair boundaries should not be the main focus of a health campaign needed by half the human race, almost all of whom know perfectly well what sex they are. Because other people have needs too.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/07/2020 09:00

I wondered about the photo too. Is the doctor meant to be examining electrons? For what reason, exactly? Perhaps she's looking for proof of the newly discovered male cervix, quietly confident that her Nobel is in the bag?

FloralBunting · 15/07/2020 09:10

Also, that hairnet is doing fuck all when you have a big thick fringe hanging out the front.

SerenityNowwwww · 15/07/2020 09:20

I suspect the person who set up the photo was neither a doctor nor a woman...

NotBadConsidering · 15/07/2020 09:33

I like the way that in the 16 hours since they posted that article on Twitter, they’ve posted the same group of articles multiple times to try and bury the one they’re getting ratioed on.😆😆😆 Pathetic.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/07/2020 09:37

I am enjoying all the comments from men wondering why nobody ever told them that they had a cervix!

MrsWednesdayteatime · 15/07/2020 09:43

Re the microscope in the photo.

I had a colposcopy and cryo cauterisation last year for wobbly cervical cells.

They use the microscope to do those procedures, it doesn't go inside you, it stays on the outside and in combination with bright lights helps the examiner check for changes to the cervix

MrsWednesdayteatime · 15/07/2020 09:47

↖️↖️↖️ colposcopy microscope

Pink news: "Disgusting transphobic lie" that 'only females get cervical cancer'
justanotherneighinparadise · 15/07/2020 09:51

I think you’re right MrsWednesday as I had something similar during a colposcopy.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 15/07/2020 09:52

When i started looking at some trans related threads on FWR i was like many people, middle of the road (And i still am to a certain Extent)

And i did see some posters making the arguement that ‘woman’ as a term was just a social thing, that it could be handed over so transwomen could just be women and the word female would be used instead, legally and socially and IN MEDICAL LITERATURE etc

And i thought ‘ that sounds ok’ quite reasonable

HOW FUCKING WRONG WAS I

So i agree with floral and others, any change to female means that female will also be ‘problematic’

wellbehavedwomen · 15/07/2020 09:52

Female has a biological meaning, ffs. You can't identify into a cervix, any more than you can a prostate.

Batshit.

SerenityNowwwww · 15/07/2020 09:59

What the heck do they call a prostate in someone who ids as a woman? Do they get letters from the doctors to ‘people with prostates?

We need to be crystal clear - sex is sex. Gender is akin to astrology (apologies for those who believe in astrology).

TinselAngel · 15/07/2020 10:12

The person who writes Pink News's headlines must be about 12.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 15/07/2020 10:13

Perhaps the headline writer is realityphobic.

ShitStain · 15/07/2020 10:16

They are just making themselves look like silly trolls.

I imagine people who are struggling with gender identity cringe having these people as their spokesperson.

GoshHashana · 15/07/2020 10:17

Things like this are precisely why the Far Right will eventually rise up, leaving the Left arguing to themselves on Twitter about pronouns. Fucking depressing.

SerenityNowwwww · 15/07/2020 10:30

I wonder what the sex breakdown of people working for the PN is?

SerenityNowwwww · 15/07/2020 10:30

I’d rather google have the $300k to Viz or the Fortean Times.

OvaHere · 15/07/2020 10:40

I'm beginning to wonder if Penis News are actually double agents with the intent of peaking the whole world.

DomDoesWotHeWants · 15/07/2020 10:45

They get more and more ridiculous.

SanFranBear · 15/07/2020 10:52

@SerenityNowwwww

I’d rather google have the $300k to Viz or the Fortean Times.
Don't be mean about Fortean Times - their topics may sometimes be a bit out there but they are backed up with references, citations and, in many cases, science.

Pink News however, just a place for angry misogynists to spout shit...