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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Parents throw second gender reveal party for transgender child

116 replies

EdgeOfACoin · 11/07/2020 19:35

Apologies if there has been a post about this already - I didn't see one.

www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/07/11/mum-throws-second-gender-reveal-party-six-year-old-transgender-daughter-12976619/amp/

In a nutshell: little boy likes playing with stereotypical girls' toys. Ergo, boy is girl.

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MiladyRenata · 11/07/2020 19:52

It's a shame we can't just let kids be kids. Maybe clothes, toys etc for small children should be gender neutral?

JellyBellies · 11/07/2020 20:02

The child does not know what it means to be a boy or a girl. Just asking to play with stereotypical girls toys.

I don't think she is asking to be made sterile, impotent and dependent on drugs for the rest of her life. I wonder if her parents realise this.

risefromyourgrave · 11/07/2020 20:09

I wonder if it’s significant that they already had a son but not a daughter.....

KingofDinobots · 11/07/2020 20:12

Oh FFS.

Soontobe60 · 11/07/2020 20:13

The world is going mad!

NeutralJanet · 11/07/2020 20:17

When she began talking and expressing herself, I realised there was more to it. She would talk about wanting hair as long as mine and wanting to wear the same clothes as me

This is about as believable as a two year old Jazz Jennings supposedly saying "I want a vagina." These are not things that toddlers come out with.

SarahTancredi · 11/07/2020 20:18

Too many girly toys huhHmm

Playing is how kids learn about the world. Toys are just toys. Its perfectly normal to play with anything. Not all boys wanna beat the crap out their brother and play football.

Just leave the poor buggers alone

megletthesecond · 11/07/2020 20:23

Fucking HELL. The parents can't see what they're doing can they.

Kids can play with what they want, wear what they want and do what sports they like.

LillianBland · 11/07/2020 20:24

Well at least the parents can feel special now. After all, that’s what it’s really about, isn’t it.

SarahTancredi · 11/07/2020 20:27

Well at least the parents can feel special now. After all, that’s what it’s really about, isn’t it

Well the school got in there too. Bet it was lovely to no longer be just a face in a calas of 30 others probably in the forgotten middle attainment group, and be the centre if attention and the school mascot fir diversity...

LillianBland · 11/07/2020 20:39

@SarahTancredi

Well at least the parents can feel special now. After all, that’s what it’s really about, isn’t it

Well the school got in there too. Bet it was lovely to no longer be just a face in a calas of 30 others probably in the forgotten middle attainment group, and be the centre if attention and the school mascot fir diversity...

They’re going to be so annoyed if they hear there are going to be other ‘gender reveal’ parties, once other parents realise how they too, can make it all about them. At this rate you’re going to have to put money aside for the extra parties your child will have to attend, on top of birthday parties.
Mumoftwoyoungkids · 11/07/2020 20:44

When my son was about 3 he announced he wasn’t a boy. He was a train. Thomas the Tank Engine to be exact. I said “right - can all the little engines get their shoes on ready for nursery”. It went on for about six months. I didn’t realise that I was supposed to have a party though.

He has now de-transitioned and is a boy again. He still likes playing trains though sometimes.

SarahTancredi · 11/07/2020 20:45

They’re going to be so annoyed if they hear there are going to be other ‘gender reveal’ parties, once other parents realise how they too, can make it all about them. At this rate you’re going to have to put money aside for the extra parties your child will have to attend, on top of birthday parties

It used to be people lived their lives now they all just attention seek on social media.

All these kids growing up in an age where attention seeking and being so publically different is the norm with zero idea what path they are being placed on.

Perhaps if they got out more and spent time away from YouTube and Facebook they're wouldnt be time for this stuff

HavelockVetinari · 11/07/2020 20:48

Poor wee boy. Obviously the parents wanted a girl Sad

The ridiculous assertions they make - if their doctor really did say this (s)he should be struck off for lying:

"They told us that hardly any children change their minds about their gender identity after this age when they are consistent, insistent, and persistent about it"

EdgeOfACoin · 11/07/2020 20:49

@risefromyourgrave

I wonder if it’s significant that they already had a son but not a daughter.....
I wondered about that as well.

Also, it always seems to be little boys who are transed to girls by their parents. You rarely hear about parents worrying about the gender of their short-haired, tractor-loving toddler daughters. From what I can see, FtM transition seems to become popular around adolescence.

I just think parents are much more easily able to accept a tomboy daughter than a 'sissy' son.

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leeloo1 · 11/07/2020 20:50

Ffs! When my son was 2, he talked about "when I grow up and be a mummy" and quite happily chose to wear a sparkly tutu like his best friend, but funnily enough I realised that he was still learning about what he liked and didn't book him in for a sex change op! Hopefully it's not too late? 🙄

My daughter spent quite a lot of time pretending to be a cat or a fairy... I don't know whether to start saving up for whisker & tail or wings surgery? It's so hard being a parent!

EdgeOfACoin · 11/07/2020 20:52

@JellyBellies

The child does not know what it means to be a boy or a girl. Just asking to play with stereotypical girls toys.

I don't think she is asking to be made sterile, impotent and dependent on drugs for the rest of her life. I wonder if her parents realise this.

Yeah. It's cute when you're popping balloons and cutting into pink or blue cakes.

A few years later when the puberty blockers start, and 12 years later when the surgeons are trying to find enough flesh from Ella's thigh to make a 'neovagina', it becomes a lot less cute.

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LittleEntrepeneur · 11/07/2020 20:57

I was so shocked that we were having another boy because everyone thought it would be a girl – including me.

Blatantly just wanted a DD. I don’t know why these people don’t just go down the IVF PGD sex selection route, rather than trying to change the DC they already have.

FatherBrownsBicycle · 11/07/2020 21:02

@NeutralJanet

When she began talking and expressing herself, I realised there was more to it. She would talk about wanting hair as long as mine and wanting to wear the same clothes as me

This is about as believable as a two year old Jazz Jennings supposedly saying "I want a vagina." These are not things that toddlers come out with.

4 year old DN refused to get his hair cut because he wanted it to be ‘like mummy’. He also used to clomp around in her shoes but at no point did she assume he wanted to be a girl!
patas · 11/07/2020 21:03

@LittleEntrepeneur

I was so shocked that we were having another boy because everyone thought it would be a girl – including me.

Blatantly just wanted a DD. I don’t know why these people don’t just go down the IVF PGD sex selection route, rather than trying to change the DC they already have.

Do they want a 'girl' who when adult will not be able to have children or provide them with grandchildren?
NearlyGranny · 11/07/2020 21:09

My DB, aged about 3, asked our DM when he was going to turn into a girl. His logic was that he was third of three and his older siblings were both girls, so that was something that must have happened to them and would inevitably happen to him, too. He wasn't anxious, just curious, and he accepted it readily enough when told his case was different and he wouldn't be changing.

I shudder to think what might happen now to a child who asked a similar question.

aliasundercover · 11/07/2020 21:13

When my son was about 3 he announced he wasn’t a boy. He was a train. Thomas the Tank Engine to be exact.
He has now de-transitioned and is a boy again

De-trainsitioned, surely?

gardenbird48 · 11/07/2020 21:16

I spent a lot of my childhood wishing I could be a horse. Thank goodness my parents stayed strong and didn’t organise me a leg/fur transplant.

CountFosco · 11/07/2020 21:17

DD2 spent a few months where she insisted she was a dog and would crawl round the house barking. Funnily enough we didn't see a doctor about her trans species behaviour and funnily enough she grew out of it.

LittleEntrepeneur · 11/07/2020 21:17

@patas I don’t think most of these people think that far ahead. They don’t see past the pink dresses and pig tails.

Also I wonder if they’re Christians. That is often a factor in these cases, according to the whistle blower at the Tavistock. Some parents would rather their DC was trans and put it through all that medication and surgery and unknown future, than admit they have a gay child.