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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“If sub atomic particles defy constructs why should we believe in fixed constructs of gender”

59 replies

Kit19 · 03/07/2020 16:50

I’m too tired for this level of nonsense. I’m
Not a physicist but I don’t believe quantum physics works quite like this...

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merrymouse · 04/07/2020 17:03

Weirdly, the 'reality doesn't exist' argument never seems to be used in discussions about poverty, global warming or the rights of any other group. Its just sex.

merrymouse · 04/07/2020 17:20

Jane Austen - Northanger Abbey - 1803

The advantages of natural folly in a beautiful girl have been already set forth by the capital pen of a sister author; and to her treatment of the subject I will only add, in justice to men, that though to the larger and more trifling part of the sex, imbecility in females is a great enhancement of their personal charms, there is a portion of them too reasonable and too well informed themselves to desire anything more in woman than ignorance. But Catherine did not know her own advantages did not know that a good-looking girl, with an affectionate heart and a very ignorant mind, cannot fail of attracting a clever young man, unless circumstances are particularly untoward.

merrymouse · 04/07/2020 17:22

wrong thread - but actually it applies here equally well. Men can't cope with intelligent women, and think they will believe any old tosh.

CaveMum · 04/07/2020 22:26

Debbie Hayton has tweeted Krishnan offering, as an actual trans person rather than a drag artist and physics teacher, to come on C4 and set a few things straight in this topic. Krishnan has graciously asked Debbie to DM him.

Of course the cries of “wrong kind of trans” have already begun.

“If sub atomic particles defy constructs why should we believe in fixed constructs of gender”
DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 04/07/2020 22:36

I’ve watched most of the Joe Rogan/James Lindsey (one of the 3 grievance hoaxers) interview today and it is absolutely bang on about all this PoMo bollocks.

Easy to listen to while doing other things, so don’t let the 3 hour length put you off.

At one point, Lindsay says this stuff prevents him sleeping at night, (paraphrasing- that the pulse in his eyelid twitches too much).

It’s funny, enlightening, terrifying and gives some practical suggestions on how to beat it. I will be making my son watch it before he returns to uni in September:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=FtNW3I1FZ5o

Short clip: m.youtube.com/watch?v=IqP0P62q4JY

Delphinium20 · 05/07/2020 00:54

@HeistSociety

Can I just say how much I loathe the word 'gender'? My hope for the coming years is that it fades out of existence.

Bio sex, and sex stereotypes are adequate terms. Throw in temperament and personality traits, and there's nothing you can't discuss!

Gender identity is a pseudo religious term, like 'soul' and can stay in gender church.

"Gender identity is a pseudo religious term, like 'soul' and can stay in gender church."

Amen!

TheRealMcKenna · 05/07/2020 09:11

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong I listened to that yesterday. It has to go down as one of my all time favourite Joe Rogan podcasts.

I believe Mike Nayna is making a film about the Grievance Studies hoax. There is a clip about it on his YouTube channel. He also did a series of videos about Evergreen with Bret Weinstein which are very interesting.

testing987654321 · 05/07/2020 09:28

I like this response to the original tweet Drag queens aren't subatomic particles.

I am not sure why s as anyone needs to be a physicist to respond to that nonsense.

NotBadConsidering · 05/07/2020 09:41

Exactly. You don’t need to rebuff every single piece of batshittery on the internet. Getting a physicist involved just gives legitimacy to the idea that there’s a debate to be had. That’s why NASA don’t spend all their time rebuffing Flat Earthers. Just let them spout their nonsense and let everyone see them for the fools they are.

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