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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“If sub atomic particles defy constructs why should we believe in fixed constructs of gender”

59 replies

Kit19 · 03/07/2020 16:50

I’m too tired for this level of nonsense. I’m
Not a physicist but I don’t believe quantum physics works quite like this...

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PastMyBestBeforeDate · 04/07/2020 00:59

Planes. Trans gravity exclusionary bastards.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 04/07/2020 01:00

The way they insist on saying "gender" instead of "sex" always reminds me of the way creationists insist on saying "kinds" instead of "species" when denying evolution.
My favourite comment on that thread is "if we evolved from monkeys then how come the sky is blue?" Makes about as much sense as that nonsense.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/07/2020 01:04

Amrou is reaching so hard there it's a wonder the poor thing didn't dislocate a shoulder.

tobee · 04/07/2020 01:15

It's so fucking desperate, isn't it? Embarrassing

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/07/2020 01:16

"I should be allowed to do whatever I want regardless of how much harm it causes to anyone else because quantum, innit?"

ShinyFootball · 04/07/2020 01:20

Just watching it

A PHOTON they fire a fucking photon.

Ok continuing video.

(I have yet to find evidence of genuine single photon emission despite the excitement over it all, if anyone has anything happy to read it!)

ShinyFootball · 04/07/2020 01:23

Heh

Do DSD/ clownfish are OUT

quantum physics is IN

ever more tricky things to confuse people

And yet human males and females continue as they always have....

Is there any area they won't take for their cause, even with ZERO understanding of it?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/07/2020 01:29

It's very unkind to question the relentless appropriation of everything, you know.

TehBewilderness · 04/07/2020 02:20

It's always quantum, innit?
If you are interested in quantum physics "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" is surprisingly accessible, even for high school drop outs like me.

EmperorCovidula · 04/07/2020 02:45

The thing that I still can’t understand is why the drag community insist they’re challenging gender when they’re actually espousing a very extreme version of the gender that is said to correspond to the opposite sex. They’re reinforcing gender constructs.

twoHopes · 04/07/2020 07:08

Oh for god's sakes. How do they let this shit on TV?

"And then every now and again it goes through both holes at the same time. And we don't really know why"

Er...yes we do.

"And sometimes the same sub-atomic particle is in different locations at the same time"

Er...no it's not. No idea what he's trying to describe here. Either this is a complete misunderstanding of quantum entanglement or another misreading of the double split experiment.

And we haven't even got onto the genderwang yet.

In conclusion. No.

Agrona · 04/07/2020 07:16

TwoHopes. You mean we haven’t reached Genderwang? Blast. All my hopes ruined.

twoHopes · 04/07/2020 07:36

Sorry @Agrona, quantum physics does not ergo genderwang. Maybe we could give string theory a pop instead?

NotBadConsidering · 04/07/2020 07:37

Schrödinger’s Bunce: both simultaneously Philip and Pip at the same time.

OliveKitteridgeAgain · 04/07/2020 10:27

Sir Ballsaac Newton

TheRealMcKenna · 04/07/2020 10:43

Every time he opens his mouth he reveals his lack of understanding of physics.

Physical principles and analogies could equally be used to disprove all his points. An electron can have a spin of +1/2 or -1/2. There is no ‘in between’. But let’s just ignore anything that doesn’t fit the ideology.

FantaOra · 04/07/2020 10:53

And yet he's a drag queen, not a drag spectrum or a drag gender or a drag construct. His sexy feels still required him to dress up as a her. So binary, so dull.

SunsetBeetch · 04/07/2020 11:15

@TehBewilderness

Replacing sex with gender is like replacing modern medicine with prayers. Believing it yourself is foolish but demanding that others share your beliefs is inexcusable.

LaraAdamsMille1
I’ll say it one more time:

Defining “man” and “woman” anatomically doesn’t reduce women to their genitals. It reduces the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN men and women to their biology.

That's excellent.
BaronessBrighterThanYou · 04/07/2020 11:36

Sir Ballsaac Newton

What I come here for.

TorkTorkBam · 04/07/2020 12:44

Xkcd nailed it some time ago.
xkcd.com/1240/

“If sub atomic particles defy constructs why should we believe in fixed constructs of gender”
veryvery · 04/07/2020 13:07

Absolutely, we shouldn't believe in fixed constructs of gender! Because gender is a social construct.

So a woman can wear whatever she likes, for example and wear her hair however she wants but her sex is still female. Clothes, hairstyles, behaviour, makeup, hobbies, academic interests, occupations don't change a person's sex.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/07/2020 13:27

What is a drag queen's "gender", anyway? Is Amrou attempting to suggest that it's some form of "not man" in general? Cause there are going to be some other drag queens who won't be happy about that.

Kit19 · 04/07/2020 15:26

God I’ve just seen someone I respect on twitter liking a tweet praising this word salad performance of nonsense as “a strong & confident argument”

I really wish twitter didn’t show me likes....

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TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 04/07/2020 15:42

Maybe they're meaning 'strong and confident' in the same way as 'brave and stunning'? Wink

Highperbolay · 04/07/2020 15:48

Oh God, not this guy again, he has already been on the BBC website a couple of years ago wanging on about this. Stop trying to make quantum gender identity bollocks happen, it's not going to happen!

Schrödinger’s Bunce: both simultaneously Philip and Pip at the same time.

Grin

Is it me or does Krishnan look like he is trying to stifle his mirth there?

Owen Jones has actually retweeted Shon Faye talking about this as well. How can anyone take this shit seriously?