Keir Starmer Sky News

[AppleJane]

Keir Starmer refused to confirm Lloyd Russell-Moyle will be sacked.

[Muttonindistress]

On BBC news now too. ‘He was wrong. He’s apologised. I’ve accepted his apology.’ Sounds pretty final.

[NotAGirl]

@LoeliaPonsonby

Starter for ten: spot the difference between RBL and LRM which might have a bearing on how they were treated by KS.

KS is another waste of space, it would appear.

Yes it occurred to me RLB is a woman she's much easier to sack.

Both were wrong but Keir Starmer evidently doesn't care about losing female voters

[Floisme]

I want him to succeed but that's not good enough for me.

[roziro]

He has just said on bbc breakfast 'RLM has apologised and most people believe I made the right decision not sacking him'.
Another one still politically homeless here.

[BovaryX]

you single-issue feminists are tedious

I tell you what's tedious. Craven politicos who don't have the cojones to answer simple questions about external reality because they are pandering to zealots.

[ThinEndoftheWedge]

God you single-issue feminists are tedious.

God you Mothers who care about safeguarding children are bloody brilliant!

[ZombieLizzieBennet]

My guess is he doesn't want two sackings of Momentum connected people in the space of a week and is prioritising that. Wouldn't be surprised to see LRM out at a convenient juncture though, it's not like he's an ornament to the front bench.

[Highperbolay]

I do want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and agree that he has a lot of shit to sort out in his party.

However, sacking a woman for a retweet and sparing a man who wrote an actual article isn't a great look is it?

[AppleJane]

But it's not really about a single issue is it?

At the heart of it, regardless of the content of their tweets it's about a woman politician and a man politician being 'punished' differently.

[Cabinfever10]

Just watched him on BBC.
He's standing behind and drawing a line under it as he's apologised .
No its not

[Justhadathought]

He nearly nearly fainted when asked about biological males in women's sport Slippery and evasive - he's never going to stand up for women and children's rights over this. The TRAs captured him long ago

No, he's not. He's not a conviction politician, but a crowd pleaser. And to that end the pressure needs to be kept up, so that he realises that there is quite a crowd of previous Labour supporters who do not accept that TWAW, and that should he instead turn his campaigning energy towards the promotion of third spaces.

[LouHotel]

I have a strong local profile and I’m seriously considering running as an independent in the next election to highlight this as an issue, I keep thinking if 100’s of women do the same in marginalS we wouldn’t win but it will force the issue.

[Ginnyhip46]

Where do we write to? It's unacceptable hypocrisy.

[derxa]

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[PronounssheRa]

Having said this if Labour loses women voters because of this, we're stuck with the Conservatives

But that is the Labour party's fault, not the women who they have alienated.

It's shit, it really is, but I can't vote for a party that is so misogynistic and appears to not be doing anything about it. LRM would have been much easier to sack than RLB because he has form and the public view him as a crack. But Starmer appears to be backing him, which says a lot.

[Justhadathought]

Looks like Momentum Labour have chosen the TWAW slogan as the hill they are prepared to die on. It is a no-go, no-debate issue.

[Justhadathought]

But Starmer appears to be backing him, which says a lot

It is also about the timing. He can't be seen to be a leader who sacks people every week. He's coming under massive pressure from the leftists in his party.

[jessstan2]

I'd never heard of Lloyd Russell-Moyle before.

[SerenityNowwwww]

@Muttonindistress

On BBC news now too. ‘He was wrong. He’s apologised. I’ve accepted his apology.’ Sounds pretty final.

It wasn’t an apology. He tweeted a mealy mouthed ‘I’m sa-weeeeeeee’ when he thought he might get the sack. JKR was not directly addressed but even tagged.

[pigeon999]

Nick Robinson doing good work on Today on RAdio 4: "What do you think about the conflict or rights between women's rights and trans rights? Keir Starmer: "It's the wrong question"

Wow he needs to sort out his position on this! It is the wrong question?!!!

Seriously

[BovaryX]

@Justhadathought

Looks like Momentum Labour have chosen the TWAW slogan as the hill they are prepared to die on. It is a no-go, no-debate issue.

justhad

That's my interpretation too. Which makes me wonder who is pulling the strings?

[Justhadathought]

God you single-issue feminists are tedious

We're not single issue people at all. It just sop happens you've turned up to the place where many people meet to discuss this specific issue. Because for the last few years it has been the only place that we have been free to discuss it. Because undemocratic leftists have managed to shut down or harass all other avenues.

[Kit19]

honestly sprouts i get the anger I really do. I would love him to come out and say he thinks the whole TRA agenda is nuts but it would be political suicide to do so when Labour is barely held together as it is. The party membership is mostly woke middle class liberals and he'd never get anything through the NEC or conference if he came out straight away saying the agenda was nonsense.

if he's smart he'll try and shift the discussion to it being about women's rights, safe spaces and fairness around sports rather than about the GRA. IF he's smart that is....

of course he could just be another lefty guy with no skin in the game who doesnt see the issues......i mean he would be far from the first lefty bloke to disappoint me in this :/

[littlbrowndog]

I just watched him on bbc

Have never seen him really talk before

So not impressed

Heard him on radio4.

No5 impressed and thinking there’s the guy I could vote for

Wrong question

[donquixotedelamancha]

i dont for one moment believe he thinks TWAW - he's just desperate to avoid getting dragged into it until his grip on the party is firmer. in his position I'd do the same - bluntly hes got 4 years off opposition ahead of him and labour is a factional car crash.

Yeah that. I can't vote labour at the mo, but I'm not totally without hope I'll be able to soon.