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Twitter has suspended me

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Glinner · 27/06/2020 03:16

I'm really sorry to barge in on you Mumsnettters with my problems, but
I've been finally suspended from Twitter and I have a feeling they're either going to ban me or just take my verified tick. I've submitted an appeal with Twitter and the Better Business Bureau but I thought I'd post here too so people knew what was going on.

Recently, I keep being locked out of my account and forced to delete tweets to get back in. The latest tactic by trans rights activists is to run a search for any time I've used the word 'groomer', a phrase Twitter recently decided was Not Allowed.

This was not a violation of Twitter's ToS at the time I used the phrase, and I have been careful to avoid it since. I still use the word 'grooming' in various permutations because I believe that gender ideology is a form of societal grooming. It is a very real threat to the wellbeing of women and children and if our ability to name a threat is removed, it is even more difficult to fight that threat.

You may remember that Twitter similarly removed Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy. She lost her account when she said "that's him" about 'Jessica' Yaniv. Bear in mind that Yaniv was still going under 'Jonathan' at the time, and just as in my case, her crime against Twitter's Terms of Service was not actually an offence at the time she committed it. She probably never thought she could be banned from the public square for uttering the words "that's him". But that's Twitter.

Twitter has a high percentage of trans-identified employees and for some time has been silencing feminists and their allies who run afoul of its absurd 'misgendering' policies. The one good thing about my situation is that I'm in great company--Claire Graham, Meghan Murphy, Skylar Gwynn, Miranda Yardley, GNC Centric and many more, important feminist and critical voices who have been silenced for fighting a dangerous ideology that tells children it's possible to be born into the wrong body.

Anyway, that's what's happening. Please let people know it's entirely down to malicious reporting from the usual suspects and please keep watching my YouTube Channel and visiting my depressing blog. I'll also be available on Glindr if people from Twitter want to re-establish contact there. Hope it's ok to post these links to those destinations

YouTube:
Glindr: glindr.org/home
Women are Important: glinner.co.uk/

Thanks for all the support, and thanks for letting me fight alongside you.

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NotTerfNorCis · 27/06/2020 11:32

Hi Glinner - really sorry to see this. You have my full support.

FiveFootTwoEyesOfBlue · 27/06/2020 11:33

Hey Glinner. Thanks for standing up for intellectual freedom in an age where wrongthink is a crime. And thanks for standing with women.

As for Twitter, I think it's got to the point now where the world would be better off if it didn't exist. It seems the trolls outnumber the witty and interesting.

Vdubcampa · 27/06/2020 11:33

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wellbehavedwomen · 27/06/2020 11:35

@littlbrowndog

The stuff that was posted on Twitter to Joanna Rowling was the worst thing I ever saw

So much hate towards a woman

Awful as it was, I think it shifted a lot of views. Hard to argue that there's no threat to women, or indeed that transwomen are women, when her statements met with violently explicit rape threats on that kind of scale. Adding a 'lady' before 'dick' didn't make the threats female.
Institutkarite · 27/06/2020 11:35

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Tianalia · 27/06/2020 11:35

I can do it, but my time is not free. Shall I give you a link for a payment?

Another version of paypal me at.

I find getting a job is just as effective.

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/06/2020 11:35

You just keep showing the grim bits of this movement up Glinner known around here as saying the quiet bits loud. You're not supposed to say the quiet bits loud! Flowers I continue to admire your determination and will to stand up to those quiet bits and make them seen for what they are.

@Michaelmumsnet thank you for what must have been an Augean stables job to start the day with, great job of preserving the thread.

(Although agree, we really ought to keep a few of these threads bottled in aspic to demonstrate: this is the reality of what female people are trying to defend their rights against. This is what 'we just want to pee' really means.)

StellaRockafella · 27/06/2020 11:38

Just a note of support and to thank you, you’re someone I followed and am so grateful to for being so tenacious and tireless for standing up and being counted. If only there were more like you who had the common sense and the platform to speak out against TRAs, MRAs and support feminists, women’s rights and their need for sex-based rights and single sex spaces.

Twitter is an embarrassment. As Janice Turner wrote in The Times: ‘ Twitter pile-ons are horrid. Several times now hundreds of trans activists have informed me what I should suck and how they’d like me to die. But they pass. They are not real. Universities, businesses, celebrities or charities should always remember that only a fifth of Britain — about 14 million people — is on Twitter and 80 per cent of tweets are written by 10 per cent of users. A tiny, intolerant minority is dictating public policy which the vast majority of us abhor. However, institutions like the Booker Prize always panic, and cowards always cave.’

Anyway, again, thank you. It’s nice to see you here.

MaxNormal · 27/06/2020 11:38

Well, I was always gender critical but I must say the calm and reasoned replies from all the first-time posters have made me realise that they're exaclty the sort of people I should be supporting and welcoming into female spaces Hmm

RitaMorenoMuppetShow · 27/06/2020 11:38

@everybodysang Thank you so much for saying this. I completely agree. I have used Mumsnet on and off for 10 years under a variety of usernames and I hardly ever post now because the transphobia is so rampant and off-putting. I still dip in every now and then because this should be a useful resource for parents and I enjoy a parking thread with diagrams, but I feel increasingly grubby and guilty for enabling a site that I feel supports bigotry.

@MichaelMumsnet and Mumsnet Towers generally - I hope you realise that your policies around this are turning off huge numbers of people. I'm not a "trans rights activist", whatever that is. I'm just a woman with a kid who wants that kid to grow up in an inclusive and tolerant world. Among most parents in my circle (I'm in my 30s) Mumsnet is a running joke for something you wouldn't want to be associated with, entirely because of your support for transphobia. Please do consider doing some research about this.

MaxNormal · 27/06/2020 11:39

And thank you for standing up for woman.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 27/06/2020 11:40

This is what 'we just want to pee' really means

yeah, instructive innit?

I mean gestating a 12lb baby has left me pretty single minded about finding a toilet when the need arises, but I'm not chasing people around the internet at 4 in the morning making abusing social media posts about it

I wonder what the difference is? Could it possibly be that I don't feel quite so entitled to piss in the location of my choice as some other people? Could that be linked to the different ways they and I were socialised?

so many questions...

Highperbolay · 27/06/2020 11:41

What is poor Aidan Comerford going to do now? Sure, he can spend a final couple of days slagging off Glinner, but what then? He won't know what to do with himself. He will be left with a solitary Magdalen Berns screenshot that he posts at least 3 times a week.

Maybe he will come to regret Glinner's suspension Grin

BaronessWrongCrowd · 27/06/2020 11:41

[quote RitaMorenoMuppetShow]@everybodysang Thank you so much for saying this. I completely agree. I have used Mumsnet on and off for 10 years under a variety of usernames and I hardly ever post now because the transphobia is so rampant and off-putting. I still dip in every now and then because this should be a useful resource for parents and I enjoy a parking thread with diagrams, but I feel increasingly grubby and guilty for enabling a site that I feel supports bigotry.

@MichaelMumsnet and Mumsnet Towers generally - I hope you realise that your policies around this are turning off huge numbers of people. I'm not a "trans rights activist", whatever that is. I'm just a woman with a kid who wants that kid to grow up in an inclusive and tolerant world. Among most parents in my circle (I'm in my 30s) Mumsnet is a running joke for something you wouldn't want to be associated with, entirely because of your support for transphobia. Please do consider doing some research about this.[/quote]
Please provide any evidence of transphobia or report it.

Xanthangum · 27/06/2020 11:42

So pleased that Mermaids are maintaining a dignified silence on this. Gloating would be such a childish move, but luckily they are a mature and well respected organisatio.. oh.

Twitter has suspended me
Highperbolay · 27/06/2020 11:42

@MichaelMumsnet and Mumsnet Towers generally - I hope you realise that your policies around this are turning off huge numbers of people.

When you look at the actual numbers though, they really aren't!

picklemewalnuts · 27/06/2020 11:43

I've had to give up on reading this thread- it's moving faster than I can read.

I've seen accusations of transphobia but no actual transphobia.
Just people who think disagreeing with them is transphobic.

If people keep defining disagreement as transphobia than they're going to get massively triggered.

If you claim that a site which allows women to talk about important issues like safeguarding is transphobic, then what are you saying about trans people?

BaronessWrongCrowd · 27/06/2020 11:43

@everybodysang

My quote function isn't working for some reason so I've had to copy and paste - apologies if the formatting looks a bit odd.

everybodysang
I'm not a new member. I've been here for yeaaaars and years. But I don't come here much any more as the transphobia is desperate.

Anyway, this has made me happier than anything I have seen on here for years so I am glad I popped back in. Never has something been so deserved. Maybe find a new hobby?
Maybe you might like to think about why you are so pleased that an extremely vocal advocate for Women's rights has been silenced.

I've thought about it. And I'm really pleased that someone so aggressively transphobic has been removed from Twitter. Am not quite sure what wasn't clear in my original post?

Anyway, I'm pleased to have the chance to stand up and say with others that I don't agree with the general anti-trans sentiment on here and it's put me off using a resource I used to enjoy and find really useful (and saw me through some very, very difficult times as a parent).

I know lots of you disagree. That's ok. I genuinely feel I'm on the right side and I don't need to have my mind changed. I'll get on with my day feeling better that the trans people I know feel they have been listened to. I'm ok with that. I know lots of you won't be. That's not my problem.

Absolutely respect your right to your opinion. However what are you on the right side of exactly?
R1R2 · 27/06/2020 11:43

@GlinnerNot such so much fun when it happens to you is it enjoy the gulag comrade

rabbitwoman · 27/06/2020 11:43

Only on page 8 of this thread. It's a bit of a bun fight....

You know, I am an intelligent and very kind lady. It just so happens that I fell into this issue kind of by accident and I have been fully engaged ever since. I have been to all corners of the Internet and have seen every single argument, from both sides, debated and rebuked and debunked then bunked again.... I know all the responses and counter arguments from both sides and I have my opinion, pretty inflexible by now but very well informed.

Glinner and mumsnet have helped me so much with my journey, but other sources too; YouTube, the Times, Pink News etc... Channel 4 fact checking, BBC reports into the Tavistock centre, and very powerful accounts of detransitioners like Keira Bell, and now the mighty JK Rowling and all the fall out from that all paint to me a very clear picture.

This whole thing is beyond crazy!

I am afraid that the transgender position of 'we are the most abused and oppressed people in society, you are telling us we are not valid' etc just does not hold up to scrutiny for me. There is no substance to it, nothing to back it up, and anyone wanting further information, further facts, is either signposted to yet more fairly spurious arguments about feeling like you are trapped in the wrong body, denying their existence; or screamed at, shouted at and abused, hounded off twitter and out of positions (like the Booker prize), and that just makes me think that there IS nothing of substance behind it.

Think of the Brexit row. For or against, there were at least very coherent arguments for both sides, facts and figures and examples for both sides. It might have ended in a disaster (though still yet to be seen), but noone was hounded out of their job or threatened with rape and violence for holding either argument. Noone lost their prestigious positions, unless they were directly connected with the process.

Whereas the GC position, using facts and examples such as Yaniv, Challenor, Karen white etc and what seems to be a common sense approach to the reality of our actual bodies rather than feelings and ideas seems much more robust.

In any debate on the issue I am able to hold my own, provide evidence, and even give some solutions. No one wants that debate, though, and it does not take long to descend into name calling, threats and blocking.

Why not? Is there actually no substance to that position? If there is, then give it to me - I will consider it, as long as there is more to it than 'twaw, no debate, end of discussion, die in a fire'....

picklemewalnuts · 27/06/2020 11:44

My 19 yr old son has had one or two safeguarding training sessions due to a voluntary role he has. He sees right through all the attempts to shut this conversation down.

wellbehavedwomen · 27/06/2020 11:44

@gardenbird48

And while I’m here - having looked at some of the accounts in twitter that are currently celebrating- he’s got a point. If anyone with any safeguarding knowledge was to look at how they are encouraging children to have secret communications and setting the parents up as the enemy (“even children don’t feel safe coming out to loving, supportive families” therefore we encourage them to have private chats with strangers about trans stuff) they’d have alarm bells going off all over the place!! Unbelievable!!
Are you serious? Adults are telling children to keep secrets from their parents, and talk privately with strangers on the internet instead? And that's not seen as a bad thing? For real?

That's your 101 in how to spot a wrong 'un, when teaching kids how to stay safe online, right there.

Institutkarite · 27/06/2020 11:44

Women's rights are not bigotry. Human beings cannot change sex, that's not transphobic it's a biological truth.
Please post evidence of rampant transphobia.

Clonakilty · 27/06/2020 11:44

Dismayed to learn this. Bastards! Big hugs .Xx

Highperbolay · 27/06/2020 11:45

I have used Mumsnet on and off for 10 years under a variety of usernames and I hardly ever post now because the transphobia is so rampant and off-putting

Can someone please, for the actual love of God, post some examples of the 'rampant transphobia' on this site!!!!

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