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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

ASDA respond to Baroness Nicholson

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TheShoesa · 23/06/2020 12:10

mobile.twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1275377329364221952

How long until the backlash do you think?

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Season6 · 23/06/2020 21:35

If she dead named a member of parliamentary staff she’d be in breach of the code but you may well be right that it doesn’t cover Twitter comments.

Michelleoftheresistance · 23/06/2020 21:35

Isn't it going to be rather obvious to the whole country when this hits the press that the real and actual reason to want rid of this woman, is that she is influential and active in supporting female and children's rights and interests as required in national and international law? And that this is very inconvenient to a certain agenda, who really don't want that law to work for women and children? And her track record is rather an impressive one?

Those are going to be the optics.

BringbackLang · 23/06/2020 21:37

Basically they are not going to chuck her out because someone has the hump. This is the real
world, not social media. Hurty feelz doesn't wash.

BringbackLang · 23/06/2020 21:38

Dead naming isn't against the law.

Season6 · 23/06/2020 21:38

Maybe those will be the optics. That wasn’t quite the angle through which everyone viewed the JK Rowling comments.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 23/06/2020 21:39

@Enderthedragon

I saw that on a Facebook page against this horrific organization.

That makes me feel murderous. It makes me fucking sick to my stomach and I want to really "sort out" those that think this evil is acceptable. I am so sick of this being tolerated.

Bananabixfloof · 23/06/2020 21:40

@Season6

Maybe those will be the optics. That wasn’t quite the angle through which everyone viewed the JK Rowling comments.
What?
Season6 · 23/06/2020 21:40

The law is irrelevant to an internal disciplinary process. Many organisations including parliament have codes that prohibit behaviour that the law doesn’t touch.

Kit19 · 23/06/2020 21:41

no season it was exactly the lens through which the VAST majority of people viewed JK Rowkings tweets

in the real world the huge majority of people supported her in the best way possible, they didnt scream all over social media, they went out and brought her books

endlessginandtonic · 23/06/2020 21:41

Excellent result! I wrote to the CEO and got a poorly written email back from 'Jon' about misunderstanding the text. Wrote back to the CEO quoting the section about the 6-year old giving oral sex, highlighted in bold and asked which bits I had misunderstood. So pleased to see this letter to the best Baroness

This was my experience as well. I've still to get a response to my second email pointing out I hadn't misunderstood anything.

nauticant · 23/06/2020 21:42

Welcome to MN Season6.

Season6 · 23/06/2020 21:45

Thank you @nauticant. I’m not new, just name changed.

Season6 · 23/06/2020 21:50

@Kit19 is that true? Have her sales seen a boost? I was basing my assessment on Twitter likes and media coverage.

Kit19 · 23/06/2020 21:54

it was on here somewhere.....i cant remember where but both Harry Potter books and the Strike series went back into the top 10

Season6 · 23/06/2020 22:08

I’d be interested to see that evidence. I can’t see any of her books in the top 10 in the last four weeks on Publishers Weekly lists. That may however not be the best place to look, not my area of expertise.

Thisismytimetoshine · 23/06/2020 22:13

You seem invested in the Baroness having it explode in her face, Season? Forgive me if I'm wrong.

boatyardblues · 23/06/2020 22:17

@Michelleoftheresistance

Isn't it going to be rather obvious to the whole country when this hits the press that the real and actual reason to want rid of this woman, is that she is influential and active in supporting female and children's rights and interests as required in national and international law? And that this is very inconvenient to a certain agenda, who really don't want that law to work for women and children? And her track record is rather an impressive one?

Those are going to be the optics.

This, in spades.
Season6 · 23/06/2020 22:18

You are actually wrong. I am writing a thesis on parliamentary codes of conduct and what behaviour they seek to regulate compared to what behaviour the public think they should regulate. So I’m very interested in the case from an academic point of view as I’m going to use it as a case study.

nauticant · 23/06/2020 22:19

How often do people get kicked out of the Lords for breaching the code of conduct there?

Season6 · 23/06/2020 22:27

There is a new code that for the first time covers behaviour rather than issues like not declaring vested interests before voting on legislation. The new code has not been in place long. One member was chucked out but that was for sexual harassment. Two have been sanctioned for minor harassment/misjudged comments to staff but not chucked out as long as they attend behaviour change therapy. The next year will be telling as the changes are new and investigations take a long time so results are just starting to be seen.

FreeKitties · 23/06/2020 22:27

Season6

Cool story bro.

But back in the real world people, even sainted academics, don’t get to use investigations into breaches of parliamentary codes of conduct as case studies. Especially ones that are ongoing, or in this case don’t actually exist yet.

Season6 · 23/06/2020 22:32

Um, a sainted academic could refer to a large scale Twitter campaign to get people to submit complaints against someone. I’m clearly not going to be able to write about any actual investigation unless or until it’s published.

Why the aggression? What that I have said makes you so pissed off?

titchy · 23/06/2020 22:33

If you're writing a thesis on something that hasn't happened and will probably never happen, may I respectfully suggest an alternative topic, perhaps one based on current reality.

titchy · 23/06/2020 22:34

I’m very interested in the case from an academic point of view as I’m going to use it as a case study.

Your words season. Present tense. I am going to use it.

Season6 · 23/06/2020 22:36

I’m not writing a thesis on this case. Look at what I said. I’m writing a much wider thesis and this is one example that I hope to refer to. Anyway, I’m off. I don’t understand what I’ve said that pisses you all off but you clearly don’t want me commenting.

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