How eyeliner defines my womanhood

[Shedbuilder]

I don't really have any words left:

www.bustle.com/p/how-eyeliner-defines-my-womanhood-54595

Tell me it's satire.

FFS.

"How eyeliner/my gold lamé pocketbook/
hoop earrings/pink trainers defines my made up in my male head identity womanhood"

Does his beard too?

Fucking ridiculous.

Nice of the person to say that I don't have to wear eyeliner to be a woman. Very inclusive.

Before I noticed the eyeliner I noticed the facial hair. Is it still a beard if it's on a woman's face? Don't want to offend.

I wouldn't say my facial hair defines my womanhood. More the constant battle against it.

But, looks like I've been doing it wrong. I should let that shit grow and embrace it as part of my gender identity.

This. THIS encapsulates for me the fucking gaslighting shite women are told to 'accept' and are threatened with all manner of appalling things if we refuse.

WHY have so many people - especially women - gone along with this utter bollocks?

Why can’t eyeliner define him as a man though?

Why can’t he push the boundaries of what it means to be a man ?

And why the fuck are people called ‘stunning and brave’ when they bully women out of their own single sex provisions, but they never ever stand up to over men ..... and they reckon they are fighting the patriarchy? Are they fuck, they are tearing apart women’s rights and rolling right over to sit under that patriarchy themselves whilst kneeling on the necks of women.

they are tearing apart women’s rights and rolling right over to sit under that patriarchy themselves whilst kneeling on the necks of women.

YES.

Don't have a uterus= not a woman

Blimey. That's, er, a whole new definition of nonsensical...

I'm waiting for Tutankhamun to be posthumously transed - he (or should that be she) had the best eyeliner I've ever seen...

Odd that he mentions the 90s. At that time I knew loads of men who wore eyeliner. It really wasn’t a big thing then.

I've stopped getting annoyed with articles like this now because it perfectly demonstrates just how ridiculous and narcissistic the whole thing is. We should be sharing this shit far and wide.

I've stopped reading articles like this and thinking it has anything to do with womanhood. Women can wear what they like, make up/no make up, long hair/short hair, skirts/trousers. Whatever. Men, with a full beard, put a bit of eyeliner on and it's a radical gender queering act. They put on a skirt and are afraid of using their own toilets for fear of getting beaten up. It's quite clear the problem is with men/masculinity. This should be nothing to do with women.

I think the article is rather good actually

The need this person has to create an expression of themselves should be accepted, the only thing that shouldn't be accepted is that he can be a biological female. Just because the TRAs are arseholes doesn't mean we should be. She's not asking you to believe that eyeliner defines a woman - she only feels it defines her as one. Whether you believe or don't believe that she is actually a woman is beside the point.

I am GC by the way, I just don't think that emulating the hatred the TRAs point at us is a good use of time.

The person is visibly not a she

Odd that he mentions the 90s. At that time I knew loads of men who wore eyeliner. It really wasn’t a big thing then.

Me too.

Whether you believe or don't believe that she is actually a woman is beside the point.

Well no, not really.

Yup, twoHopes, I suppose in a way I have too. But this was just so dazzling narcissistically gay male that I was seriously hoping it was satire.

I'm old, so I grew up loving David Bowie and Marc Bolan with their full maquillage. And then I was a punk and most of my male friends wore eyeliner. I mean, ffs, Robert Smith speak up will you? (Please, nobody tell me that Robert Smith is identifying as trans...)

Is this a joke?

Before I noticed the eyeliner I noticed it was a bearded bloke.

@Enb76 sorry I disagree with you on this. Of course this person has the right to dress/act/call themselves what they want. But when you're making a declaration about women/womanhood then women have the right to critique that. If I said "I've never been with a woman, I only sleep with men, but I prefer it if you referred to me as gay" then I'd expect lesbians to have an opinion on that. Especially if I was trying to insert myself into lesbian spaces.

@FreeKitties yes, my first thought too!

Men have worn eyeliner for donkeys years.

Don't get this.

@twoHopes
But when you're making a declaration about women/womanhood then women have the right to critique that

Agreed - but this article is not that.

He's a good looking bloke & the eyeliner looks nice.

Still got fuck all to do with being a woman.

Agreed - but this article is not that

I mean the title of the article is "How eyeliner defines my womanhood". I'd say it's pretty explicitly making a declaration about what womanhood is.

Enb76, I'm with you up to a point.

And I think my point is the point when they want to be she/her, because although it seems like a courtesy, such a little thing that couldn't possibly hurt anyone else and would mean a lot to them, it's clear that this is the thin end of a wedge.

Because they want to use women's toilets, and extrapolating from that (I don't think unreasonably), all women's spaces. They see themselves as a woman and they equate that with female, and that is a risk to women (maybe not from this individual, but to women as a class, by men as a class).

While it seems simple to "be kind", this is truly the thin end of the wedge - they will not stop until they get complete capitulation. They will not accept any less that complete removal of any distinction between an XX female and an XY woman.

But there can be another way - they have clearly experienced discrimination, intrusive questions about their life and relationships, physical and emotional threats. None of this is right and none of it should be tolerated. A man should be able to be as feminine as he likes and express that in his clothing, makeup, hobbies, interests whatever and no-one should discriminate against anyone for that. I wish we were fighting for a world that accepted people whatever their appearance, for the bandwidth of men to be widened to accept all men, and not for women to budge up.

Oh ffs. My high school boyfriends wore at least as much eyeliner as that, and flouncier clothes, without attempting to colonize womanhood or invade women's spaces (and without endless verbal wanking about how unique and oppressed they were). If this person is old enough to have been in middle or high school in the 90s they were old enough for emo and thus have no excuse for their failure to find an identity which allows them to wear eyeliner without claiming womanhood.