Mermaids response to JK Rowling

[SapphosRock]

Interesting to read the other side:

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/dear-jk-rowling/

You see, the trouble as I see it with Mermaids with regard to a 'response' to a well written, thoughtful and reasoned piece by a very accomplished writer is that the people who run this worrying organisation can neither:

(a) write well
(b) think rationally or
(c) argue reasonably.

I mean, when you remember that a key Mermaids person actually took a person* to court for 'transphobia'...

Lost miserably and looked entirely ridiculous, of course.

*A transwoman.

@WhatwouldLangdo

AN ABSOLUTE CUNT

Even funnier in caps 😂😂😂

Sorry if you don't like the truth @AvaMonroe but anyone identifying themselves as a transwoman is by definition biologically male. A natal female is just a regular woman. You know, the type that don't want penises anywhere we don't consent to.

Despite your male privilege, lies, aggression and indignant disregard of the group of women you claim to belong to, I hope you find yourself in recovery from (the diagnosed mental illness) gender dysphoria soon and make peace with your true biological self.

Recovery? There is no cure for gender dysphoria apart from transitioning and for people to use mental health ally disgusting.

Someone asked me about the lies Mermaids told, I feel this argument about whether or not Marsha was a trans woman is clutching at straws. Gay people would not and do not want trans people being spoken about like how they are being on here I know that much.

What other lies were allegedly told and I can respond to each.

So we do blend in, We live among you and my heart really goes out to those that don't "pass"

It’s always the forehead that gives it away to me straight away, you can be a beautiful as you like but there’s nothing you can do about the forehead.

@VickyEadieofThigh

I mean, when you remember that a key Mermaids person actually took a person* to court for 'transphobia'...

Lost miserably and looked entirely ridiculous, of course.

*A transwoman.

For a charity that claims to represent trans people, a self-identified 'cis' woman [sic] taking a transwomen to court for transphobia is a really bad look and if I were trans, I'd have concerns about such an organisation seemingly trying to speak on my behalf.

But alas, I am 'just' a mother, so I will save my concerns for the children who have their toys taken away from them because they are deemed to be the 'wrong' toys for a child of that sex.

@TheSingingKettle49

So we do blend in, We live among you and my heart really goes out to those that don't "pass"

It’s always the forehead that gives it away to me straight away, you can be a beautiful as you like but there’s nothing you can do about the forehead.

This is pathetic.

Well when your supposed victim hood has gotten you to where you are ,purely because after hearing such a sad story human beings in general would struggle to justify questioning anything. Because how does that look...

But this has enabled them to become lax/sloppy with their research and keeping up to date and genuinely getting their fact straight, they just cant do it.

They still have followers for now who are happy to keep bigging them up and inflating their egos congratulating them for all the work they do.

But now people are waking up to the fact they cant answer questions and that their methods are questionable. And they dont have the means to combat that right now in an factual way and the sob stories are just not cutting it any morw

Gay people would not and do not want trans people being spoken about like how they are being on here I know that much.

That's a bit of a wild generalisation, I think.

Many of us on here are lesbians. We feel oppressed by trans notions such as the "cotton ceiling" and object wildly to the notion that a male calls himself a "lesbian".

Lesbians have suffered enough oppression in our lives from men, without this nonsense.

Ava, the whole thread was about Mermaids' lies before you me-railed it.

Maybe go back & read, rather than demanding the support humans repeat themselves?

What other lies were allegedly told and I can respond to each.

Primarily that you are a woman.

Gay people would not and do not want trans people being spoken about like how they are being on here I know that much.

Are these the same gay people that are accused of transphobia when lesbians don't want to have sex with a bepenised male body despite angry claims that the penis is, in fact, a female one?

Are these the same gay people that are accused of transphobia when lesbians don't want to have sex with a bepenised male body despite angry claims that the penis is, in fact, a female one?

Indeed.

Recovery? There is no cure for gender dysphoria apart from transitioning and for people to use mental health ally disgusting.

Detransitioners exist and are quite a growing group. They may still have gender dysphoria but are finding other ways to deal with it.

Also transitioning isn't always a cure. Many people find their dysphoria is the same or worse post transition. It's not helpful to make blanket statements.

We live among you and my heart really goes out to those that don't "pass"

I find it hard to believe that any "pass". Do you think that we're so dim that we can't spot a man when we see one?

@PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg

I'm a lesbian, so gay. Many here are gay.

You're only looking for the posts to have another strop about so I won't waste more time here.

I care about the needs of female people not being hurled aside in the attempt to make male people happier, and about female people not being forced to pretend that biological sex does not exist to make male people happier, and so collude in their own oppression. I particularly care about females with less privilege who stand to lose access to health care, to being able to stay in hospital when they need to, to being able to escape to a refuge with their children when in fear of their life (do talk to the MNetter here who's been living on the streets because there is no refuge left where males aren't present and she's too trapped in PTSD to be able to tolerate it - her terror tears and pleas meant nothing), to not being returned to being excluded from going out much because they can't access toilets....

All because males want to use female spaces and don't care about females, and can't tolerate allowing even some facilities to remain available to them. How do you frame that as not spectacularly selfish, exclusionary and plain male supremacist in its thinking that male people matter but female people and their needs and identity and feelings are just them being stupid and mean and they shouldn't be allowed to talk about it?

Have you any idea how pissed off female people are about this? All you're getting here is teasing and rudeness in response to your appalling behaviour since you entered this thread: any idea how many female people here have seen dozens of death threats? Rape threats? Been doxxed? One of us here has been beaten up by a TW for being in a public place in possession of a female centred opinion.

Do take a look at the thread too about how the UN now talks about the stigma (and deaths) suffered because of periods without being allowed mentioning that this is due to female biology and male beliefs that they own and control females and their spaces and their sexuality. Because it's too upsetting to males. How do we defend females from biology based oppression and appalling treatment from males when males will no longer even allow us to use the words??

There was a thread about FGM as well and how some TW are suppressing protecting little girls because to mention female biology and male control of female biology is too upsetting to people born male, but it was deleted since we aren't allowed to talk about that.

I am so far beyond pissed off by all this at this point that I honestly don't know how to explain it to you any better.

EVERYTHING that Michelleoftheresistance said.

That was your cock comment btw.

EVERYTHING that Michelleoftheresistance said.

This

Michelle

For a charity that claims to represent trans people, a self-identified 'cis' woman [sic] taking a transwomen to court for transphobia is a really bad look and if I were trans, I'd have concerns about such an organisation seemingly trying to speak on my behalf.

IIRC, using a legal fund for LGBT people to do so.

@SpartacusAutisticus We are definitely in possession of absolute cunts.

‘You can’t speak for the LGBT community’ because you don’t know what it’a like.

Plenty of people on this thread know exactly what it’s like.

Ava apparently knows exactly what it is to be woman though because she is.

@AvaMonroe

You also misunderstood the meaning recovery within the context of my post. Recovery is often a "state" or "stage" of being, it is neither final nor finite.

A profound mental illness cannot be expected to go away completely with no trace of the harm it's caused, as many who've experienced addiction will tell you.
Those who have experience of mental illness whether personal or professional know that it's harmful to expect the sufferer to remain unchanged by their struggle.
I empthaise with anyone that finds something so wrong within themself that they'd resort to mutilating their otherwise healthy body.
However that empthay does not extend to support for you to demand access to our spaces, sports, scholarships, refuges, services etc.

You'd have more respect on here if you acknowledged your male privilege and did not expect us to bend to your will or the feelings in your head. Similarly, if you had not bastardised the meaning of woman or erased our experiences (which are entirely unique to our sex and you neither have, nor will, experience the same)

Gay people would not and do not want trans people being spoken about like how they are being on here I know that much.

I KNOW you are making this up.