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[Must see for all weary] Other forums on Jk Rowling situation.

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TheHeartbeat · 13/06/2020 04:13

Hi everyone, made an account for this.

Here are some other demographic forums reacting to the situation:

TheColi - large hiphop/sports forums:
www.thecoli.com/threads/jk-rowling-got-these-trehs-in-they-feelings-again.785351/ (give it a few pages Smile)

Lipstickalley - large forum focused on Black women & the culture:

  1. one of the 1st threads: www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-body-shop-is-bullying-jk-rowling.3600309/

  2. Radcliffe response: www.lipstickalley.com/threads/daniel-radcliffe-responds-to-jk-rowling%E2%80%99s-tweets.3595003/

  3. Jk Rowling's essay : www.lipstickalley.com/threads/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues-glaad-speaks.3599988/

  4. The Sun : www.lipstickalley.com/threads/wtf-jk-rowling%E2%80%99s-abusive-exhusband-tells-gossip-rag-%E2%80%9Ci-slapped-her-but-i%E2%80%99m-not-sorry%E2%80%9D.3605342/

Neogaf (revived one) - Gaming forum
www.neogaf.com/threads/j-k-rowling-gives-opinion-on-trans-issues-labelled-terf.1546947/

Seems no one wants her cast into the flames like the mob on twitter.

OP posts:
TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 15:01

I only lurk rather than post on Lipstick Alley because it's a space for black women and I don't want to intrude, but they have been consistently calling out this shit for a long time (and without the dance of linguistic appeasement we're forced to do here).

Aesopfable · 13/06/2020 15:18

Why are Harry Potter forums deleting posts in support of JKR? Surely they should all be self-combusting at their own hypocrisy of having the forum at all?

DadDadDad · 13/06/2020 15:26

And on Reddit, posters (to the GC sub-reddit) are saying that on the J K Rowling sub-reddit (not the Harry Potter sub-reddit), agreeing with JKR gets you banned! Madness.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 15:42

There are a lot of individuals with AGP on Reddit.

Apileofballyhoo · 13/06/2020 15:51

The Coli one is hilarious, thanks OP. Some homophobic comments and a women can only blame themselves for this comment - which normally would make my hackles rise but in this case it was clear the meaning was "stand up for yourselves, women" rather than the usual "know your place" - though it is also what you could say to someone being abused, and as we know it's not easy to stand up for yourself, especially when you see the level of shit piled on. I'm liking tweets and following people on Twitter but then I noticed a really good friend whom I really respect liking Sophie Ellis Baxter's retweet of Emma whatever her name is's tweet and I thought my friend probably thinks my likes are crazy... though Emma's tweet taken out of context isn't necessarily something I would disagree with either. Watson. Sorry, name escaped me.

Anyway it was so refreshing to just read what other people think.

Bananabixfloof · 13/06/2020 16:08

Honestly though.... what’s the difference between this and being
trans-racial... trans-adolescent and ect. Will pedophilia be excused if you claim you are a 15 year old girl trapped in a 37 year old mans body. Get off on a hate crime, because Andrew identifies deep down as a nikka too and you shouldn’t tell him otherwise, you are being racist against him ...Like there are no words. Where does this shytstop

This from page 6 of the coli thread.
Its exactly what others have said before but been shouted down for saying. Weird eh.

WellThankyouAJPTaylor · 13/06/2020 16:52

Just reading now, had to stop and copy this post over

Harry ass gonna be worm food in the next HP installment.

Voldemort gonna mysteriously rise again and finish the job.

Grin
TerfBangs · 13/06/2020 17:07

This was great to read! Thanks so much OP!

BatShite · 13/06/2020 17:31

refuse to accept being called 'cis'

This bit really pisses me off. I thought hat everyone had the right to determine their gender identity. But..many people are just told they are cis and to shut up? Odd, how these people cannot define themselves and say they are NOT cis isn't it..only super special snowflakes are allowed to 'identify' as whatever they please..

Campervan69 · 13/06/2020 17:32

Poster on Kiwi Farms:

"Oh boy, there is so much to analyze here.

First, as I've pointed out before, it's amazing how these people can drop any love they have for anyone or anything as soon as that anyone/thing becomes "problematic". Only then they start to nitpick for problems, which shows that they don't really care about these issues, they only use them to destroy something they don't like or that has hurt their feelings.

Then, you have the fans threatening to destroy Jo's books. You already gave her money, idiots. Please, go and burn them now, you're totally gonna look like the sane ones here.

And finally, the best part here is that Jo is right. About everything. And those trying to lecture her about biology need to remember she's married to a health worker (an anesthesiologist, iicr). She knows the science behind it.

She's also right about how TERF is a somehow slur, is the PC word for "feminazi" and makes sense that bullies like ShoeOnHead love to use it and have embraced it, it's a "mean girl" behavior.

I'm loving this plot twist very much, best thing that happened in 2020 so far."

Campervan69 · 13/06/2020 17:38

Also Kiwi Farms:

"I've gone back to look at JKR's tweets and saw a reply from a woman who is an FGM survivor say that she gets people saying that it's transphobic to describe it as such. And guess what? She's accused of telling lies by SJWs. Some of them even double down and say that, yes, it is transphobic because the clitoris and labia don't necessarily belong to a female...

twitter.com/Molleezysea/status/1269399914284331008

To think that somewhere in the world a little girl is currently being pinned down and having her genitals removed with a dirty scalpel. She could bleed to death or die of infection. It will ruin her future sex life, leave her at risk of UTIs and complicated childbirth. Yet there are white women in the West, who look on this practice and think, "You know what's problematic about this? There are people with a clitoris who don't identify as female. The term 'FGM' is transphobic."

Such SJWs no doubt support Black Lives Matter, but not if the black person is an African girl and there are trans people at risk of being reminded of their biological sex."

Campervan69 · 13/06/2020 17:39

Same poster ends:

"My hope is that people who don't really pay attention to the trans rights movement take a look now JKR has caught the media's attention. Hopefully they'll see that it's a nice way for dudebros to exercise their misogyny and still get asspats."

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/06/2020 17:40

Fascinating stuff, thanks, OP! Anybody know what is happening on Netmums?

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 13/06/2020 17:56

Fascinating thread, thank you. And yes, it's so revealing that TRA's don't round on these forums and attempt to educated/castigate the posters on them.

PurpleHoodie · 13/06/2020 18:17

Oh, I so wish they would WishingChair.

Just so we could sit back and enjoy the craic.

But of course they'd have their arses handed to them very quickly - and scathingly. And of course they are chicken shit.

PurpleHoodie · 13/06/2020 18:20

And they are wrong. And usually racist. Either directly, or patronisingly. With them it is:

#BlackLivesMatter but actually
#BlackWomenCanFeckOff.

bishopgiggles · 13/06/2020 18:27

I hope the Coli forum members don't mind if I appropriate the term "tallywacker" (please someone tell me if it's problematic and I'm not realising! )

MitziK · 13/06/2020 18:53

'Anyone who supports the transmovement is a WERM: woman exclusionary radical misogynist'

Oh, I like this.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 13/06/2020 19:14

WERMs Grin

NewAccountForCorona · 13/06/2020 19:29

I actually find it more interesting how many forums have no references to the issue at all.

For example, rollercoaster.ie (Irish equivalent of MN) has no reference to the issue, and no threads on trans that I can find since RMcK winning her race last year. I doubt no-one cares, so I suspect censorship.

There's a humdinger of threads on boards.ie which is currently dominated by accusing people of being fetishists if they are homo or hetero sexual, which is mind-boggling. Apparently a "femme lesbian" being attracted to a "butch lesbian" is an issue.

I dunno, I feel old.

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/06/2020 20:10

^ ok, I don't get that.

Must be how anyone who hasn't followed all this for the last 4 years feels...

bishopgiggles · 13/06/2020 20:59

Must be how anyone who hasn't followed all this for the last 4 years feels...

There was a thread on Site Stuff about racism, but it was all about the Royal Family and Harry/Meghan and the many threads and regular posters discussing them. I have zero clue about any of it and I felt I'd stepped into a sort of mirror world Grin I backed away because I didn't have 3 solid weeks to try and unpick who said what and if it was problematic...

NewAccountForCorona · 13/06/2020 22:09

I find the word problematic problematic.

bishopgiggles · 13/06/2020 22:57

So actually, I've just see that that racism thread had a post from MNHQ clarifying talk guidelines - worth a read - I didn't realise other places did the grey rock. Obviously this is great if it can weed out racist posters!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3931421-Effective-measures-against-threads-that-encourage-racism-and-misogyny?msgid=97267047#97267047

Kettlingur · 13/06/2020 23:03

@CourtneyLurve

I lurked the Harry Potter forum on reddit so you don't have to: the moderators are unanimously anti-women, and are deleting any posts that support Rowling. Loads of bewildered long-time posters asking where their comments in support of JK had gone, calling the bias unfair. The few I did spot before being deleted were upvoted massively.
Reddit is famously TransCentral. So many major subreddits are controlled by trans activist mods. (Including almost all of the feminist subreddits, lesbian subreddits etc. Hmm )
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