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Bloody good period writes a painfully woke letter to JKRowling

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Clymene · 07/06/2020 22:39

The charity which buys menstruation products to refugee WOMEN has written an open letter to JKR telling her to read some munroe Bergdorf. And no I'm not joking. It's an absolutely dreadful embarrassing letter, with arguments you'd expect in a gcse essay.

Signed by a load of misogynists like jolyon Maughan and some some that should know better like Jack monroe and that stupid guilty feminist woman.

docs.google.com/document/d/1EEbzyncbkIy27j8gAEQ03JNz0nla6EHZRU_Ng8zUuEY/edit

For shame.

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ShagMeRiggins · 08/06/2020 13:14

I’m crestfallen to see one of the signatories is a friend. Someone who attended my wedding. Someone whose hard work has paid off and is now reaping the benefits of a life pursuing her passion. Someone I admire, who mentored me, and who I know to be intelligent, compassionate, feminist, and a genuinely good person.

Shit.

Lordfrontpaw · 08/06/2020 13:21

Sorry but she isn’t a feminist then.

Datun · 08/06/2020 13:21

And they're getting very annoyed and frustrated that she is not responding. How dare she. Someone said yesterday said it's been five hours!

She is womaning all wrong.

The best thing she can do is to ignore them.

She's given them the platform to expose their misogyny, and they're frantically climbing over each other to stand on it and grab the mic.

Excellent.

So many people are wondering what the bloody hell she said to engender such a reaction.

So they go and look...

Datun · 08/06/2020 13:27

Several papers have quoted the tweet by Jolyon Maugham. Despite there being tens of thousands of other quotes.

Given that he is famous for being a fox bashing, kimono wearing, baseball wielding, disingenuous twit, I would say it was a stroke of genius.

Of course, the converse is true if you're using him to promote your ideology. The own goal scoring goes on.

Winesalot · 08/06/2020 13:29

I have seen on twitter somebody using an example of a male bleeding from his penis and they discovered it was menstrual blood as a 'gotcha'.

Really, DSDs are NOT gotchas.

I am so over people posting either the 'stop using science to justify phobia' link or a link to some other scientist discussing DSDs and the implications on the binary of sex. NO! come back at me with proven and peer reviewed and repeatable studies. Not a David Wolfe version of pseudo science.

Winesalot · 08/06/2020 13:31

Given that he is famous for being a fox bashing, kimono wearing, baseball wielding, disingenuous twit, I would say it was a stroke of genius. That was my immediate thought. Why is this person any value as a spokesperson except in their own hallowed mind?

ShagMeRiggins · 08/06/2020 13:34

Sorry but she isn’t a feminist then.

In the same way someone up thread mentioned that trans people can’t even agree on what trans means, the same applies to the word feminist. Or woman, for that matter. Or any number of words.

We do not all explode from the womb with ideologies fully formed, nor do we have to agree on everything. Feminists can disagree.

SunsetBeetch · 08/06/2020 13:38

Previous thread about the bloody awful Bloody Good Period.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3447687-Period-poverty-bleeders?pg=1

Related JK Rowling thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3931209-Just-when-you-think-you-couldn-t-love-JK-Rowling-more?pg=1

See the attached screenshots for examples of how much super woke Gabby Edlin from BGP respects women who disagree with her.

Gabby is also involved with the painfully woke Vagina Museum.

www.vaginamuseum.co.uk/about/people

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2020 13:39

I don't know how I missed this thread this morning - I started one of my own, I was so gobsmacked by this dreadful letter. I'll just add here the photo that came to mind.

Bloody good period writes a painfully woke letter to JKRowling
BringbackLang · 08/06/2020 13:41

"I have seen on twitter somebody using an example of a male bleeding from his penis and they discovered it was menstrual blood as a 'gotcha'."

I'd be concerned and advising that person to get to a doctor pronto!

BringbackLang · 08/06/2020 13:44

Sorry misread the bit about DSD's!

Honestly if a male is bleeding from his penis then I would say that's a bit of a concern and they need medical attention.

SunsetBeetch · 08/06/2020 13:44

Jane Clare Jones:

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1269888188786577409?s=19

"This shit is incredible.

'When we were intellectually backwards we thought that female people should have their own word, now we are enlightened we realise the word we used for female people actually means 'person who likes pink sparkly shit.''

So, the condescending piety was too much.

I had to get the coloured pens out. t.co/qQAfVUq45l "

Gwynfluff · 08/06/2020 13:46

I can barely bring myself to pick it up off the shelf such is the impact of blue on my delicate feminine sensibilities. Literal violence!

And while we’re off having this scintillating debate about whether sanitary should have pink or blue or green coverings and what symbols should be on them, we miss the seemingly wholesale decision of the main uk manufacturers to add scent to their products. Adding into every negative construction of vaginas and vulvas bring smelly and needing special cleaning (and giving loads of women thrush and irritation to boot).

We need an ‘in the meantime’ thread for all shit perpetuating as we dismantle meaningful concepts. And I’m convinced we don’t do this for health conditions and body parts that are male sexed.

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ShagMeRiggins · 08/06/2020 14:01

*”have seen on twitter somebody using an example of a male bleeding from his penis and they discovered it was menstrual blood as a 'gotcha'."

Jesus. That’s all I seem to be able to say today. This level of dysphoria and cognitive dissonance—and possibly pure ignorance—is heartbreaking and concerning.

Hope they get that penis bleeding seen to.

BaronessRadishFemish · 08/06/2020 14:01

I await to have my post deleted by mumsnet due to it may offending "Prostate Havers"..

I think your post is funny and have taken a screenshot so I can read it whenever I want even if the blue (haired) meanies report it as literal violets

Yes, I've let auto predict have its way.

JellyfishandShells · 08/06/2020 14:01

@Thelnebriati

I was shouted at on Reddit once when I posted about women menstruating in refugee camps, and how they needed sanitary protection, soap and water, toilets, and clean clothes. Various men angrily demanded didn't I think refugee women had more important things to worry about. Turns out they were probably right.
Only men could think this was of minor significance - from puberty onwards any woman knows of the discomfort and embarrassment of inadequate protection, including sticking to your clothes when the blood dries and the odour. Gaaah,
SunsetBeetch · 08/06/2020 14:06

For those mentioning Hey Girls, they actually give to Bloody Good Period, I'm afraid.

Bloody good period writes a painfully woke letter to JKRowling
BaronessRadishFemish · 08/06/2020 14:13

I'm still reeling at the Alma Cogan news. Was it over the weekend?

Winesalot · 08/06/2020 14:21

”have seen on twitter somebody using an example of a male bleeding from his penis and they discovered it was menstrual blood as a 'gotcha'."

Sorry, I was not clear. It turns out that this penis haver had a DSD (obviously a rare type). I cannot confirm or deny that there even was a real case in history of this type. I am merely pointing out the lengths the crowd has gone to disprove 'women' menstruate.

Really, all that anyone has to do is think about what JKR wrote. She really didn't infer that women have to menstruate to be a women. She did say that women menstruate and by the way... we are reclaiming our language.

This other thing I have seen so much of in the past day is 'femininity'. Fuck OFF! I have NEVER been feminine in any gender stereotypical way. In fact, I fully believe the only thing I probably have in common with every female on the earth is my biology (working well, or having a medical condition that means it is not working quite the way it is supposed to for optimal effect).

The only people who talk about this 'femininity' thing are those who perform it for whatever reason, usually to prove they are a women.

Lordfrontpaw · 08/06/2020 14:21

@SunsetBeetch

For those mentioning Hey Girls, they actually give to Bloody Good Period, I'm afraid.
Aw crap. Thats them off the list them. Maybe someone should tell them.
TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 08/06/2020 14:27

Sorry, I was not clear. It turns out that this penis haver had a DSD (obviously a rare type). I cannot confirm or deny that there even was a real case in history of this type. I am merely pointing out the lengths the crowd has gone to disprove 'women' menstruate.

I find it hard to believe could be possible, given that that would mean that a urethra would have to be connected to both a bladder and a uterus - a situation I wouldn't have thought possible to even live with, let alone not notice until old enough to menstruate.

Clymene · 08/06/2020 14:46

That is bollocks (the person menstruating through the penis)

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BaronessFloralBunting · 08/06/2020 14:48

I woke up at 5.30am, with strong cramps after climbing the walls with premenstrual tension for days because my period was late (yay perimenopause!). I had flooded the bed. I have to leave for work at 6.30am at the latest, so I had to strip the bed, wash myself, get ready, have breakfast and pain relief I knew wouldn't do much, and then I have been on my feet until 2pm in my low wage retail job, trying to concentrate on multiple tasks while increasing pain radiates from my uterus, into my back and down my thighs, needing to nip to the loo every half hour just to check I wasn't flooding again.

When I came home I put the sheets in the dryer and had the voices of my family asking what was for tea and could I help with their schoolwork, and my H announcing he had 'a 1.30, so I'll leave you to it.' I squashed down tears, because I'm aware that I am hormone rich right now, and crying is likely just a response to increased sensitivity, and I have lots of shit to still get done even after a 7 hour day of physical work to support my family and can't really indulge in a pity party with chocolates and a duvet and all that bollocks.

Anyone who wishes to create space for me to grow is welcome to live my life for me 5 days a month, and I will use that time to examine my conscience and cramp and flood better.

Thelnebriati · 08/06/2020 14:49

It isnt a DSD of any kind but if someone has a clump of cells from an absorbed twin, that symptom could theoretically be possible.

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