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GMB Statement on transphobia

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MingeofDeath · 26/05/2020 09:13

www.gmb.org.uk/online-Q-A

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Arseit · 27/05/2020 00:18

[quote MrsNoah2020]@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

Can you try to make MNHQ see sense? Ever since MN set up premium membership, members have been asking for an alternative that does not involve sharing personal data. We are literally asking to give you money, and you are ignoring us.

I get that you would prefer a subscription but, sorry, it ain't going to happen because MN cannot be trusted with personal data. I would hate to see you go under, but I am not going to risk being doxxed by the next intern who decides I'm a transphobe. I would, however, very much like to support you, if you will give me a means to do so. Just set up a Patreon if need be, FGS - it's not that hard to allow people to give you dosh![/quote]
@MNHQ the Patreon idea is a great suggestion. Or even some other method for a one-off contribution.

DidoLamenting · 27/05/2020 00:47

I looked through Alison Phipps' Twitter. She seems to have a real thing about white middle class women. Except to me Prof of gender studies would seem the epitome of white middle class occupations

She's embarrassing to read.

Jintyfer · 27/05/2020 07:42

Story on SKY News...

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-lockdown-increasing-the-gender-wage-gap-as-more-women-lose-their-jobs-than-men-11995352

The GMB should be stepping up for working women and mothers, not stepping on them!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/05/2020 08:30

I hadn't twigged that the egregious Professor Phipps was at the same university as Professor Kathleen Stock. That must make for some interesting faceoffs in the canteen.

GMB utterly spineless. As so many others have said, no wonder membership is on the decline. I used to belong to another union which appeared to be far more interested in boycotting Israel than grappling with its members' concerns over pay and working conditions, judging by the election addresses.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 27/05/2020 08:36

Patreon please MN
Or let us post stamps to you or summit - anything.
Please - how can we support you if you won't let us pay in a way that feels comfortable.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 27/05/2020 08:37

*summat, obvs

Melroses · 27/05/2020 08:40

@WTFSeriously

Twitter linked thread

This is an interesting piece of digging into those most vocal in harassing GMB over their MN link up.

Yay, my first go at quoting Grin
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/05/2020 08:40

I wonder if MNHQ is deliberately not allowing anonymous donations so their funding is transparent?

DickKerrLadies · 27/05/2020 08:52

Very interesting twitter thread. I wish I could say I was surprised, but I don't like lying.

Lordfrontpaw · 27/05/2020 08:58

This has highlighted why this union will never be on the ‘little womans side’. Any woman who tried to take on their employer over lack of single sex facilities can just not even bother.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/05/2020 09:04

Exactly, Lord.

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/05/2020 09:15

I really understand the need to stay transparent HQ, but I have the same issue in that I just can't trust your interns or insane MRAs with my personal information, I've seen too many disasters in the time I've been a member. I'd love to help but I need another way.

As to a union stating they will not tolerate this shocking, appalling association with females who say no to males....? A male supremacist union then. Ooooookay.

Yes to a female only union please. One that actually centres and represents the interests and specific needs of those born biologically female without being encumbered by what males think about their interests and needs, agree to, permit, and all the things males want females to do first before addressing those needs of being born female. While obviously never SAYING the word 'female' or implying there's half the human race forming a group with specific needs related to biology because Mean To Males.

You honestly could not make this shit up.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 27/05/2020 19:41

I see Kiri Tunks has been supporting union membership on WPUK’s Facebook when the GMB fiasco was being discussed (no surprises there) and felt the need to disclose her extensive union credentials as if that would make any difference. When will they understand that the Trades Unions are no friend to women?

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 27/05/2020 19:56

Well, I was thinking I must get around to joining the GMB like a lot of my colleagues.

Won't be doing so now.

Lordfrontpaw · 27/05/2020 20:02

I assume theyve said fuck all? Quite an organised little tantrum going on on their twitter account.

Funny how the big boys always listen to them isn’t it?

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/05/2020 20:35

The big boys need to see the other side of the coin.

Has anyone linked to the article from the other thread that incites violence while slipping over the edge of sanity every other line? And T*isaslur.com is always useful too a quick reality check.

Lordfrontpaw · 28/05/2020 00:01

They must be aware and yet...

NotBadConsidering · 28/05/2020 00:03

I posted this on the AIBU thread, but this is how I would approach it, with the definition of transphobia.

I think that’s the way to take it back to GMB, highlight to those in charge that it’s highly likely they also hold apparent transphobic views without realising it. For example:

Do you know that if you think it’s unfair that this 40 year old middle aged male offspring of a New Zealand millionaire won a weightlifting competition against an 18 year old Samoan woman then you’re transphobic? [Show who Laurel Hubbard is]

Do you know that if you think it’s unfair that these two teenager sprinters are racing against girls and winning then you’re transphobic? [show who Andraya Yearwood and Terri Miller are]

Do you know if you agree with the scientific fact that there are only two sexes then you’re transphobic?

And so on, and so on....

PositiveVibez · 28/05/2020 06:31

Can't wait to receive my questionnaire to see why I've left the GMB.

I don't know if it's indicative of all regions, but I am aware that the region I am in sends these questionnaires out to see why you have left and when they receive them back, they are viewed as 'oh well, they aren't paying members anymore, so we aren't going to waste our time responding to them'. Waste of fucking paper

littlbrowndog · 28/05/2020 09:14

Gmb is back on site. Pinned at top

Lordfrontpaw · 28/05/2020 09:16

Sorry but I really don’t trust them. I hadn’t knows about them re: Glasgow women’s fair pay.

I hope they issue a statement to put this down for once and for all (and that the Princes Trust takes note).

WhereAreWeNow · 28/05/2020 09:31

So GMB claims to unionise sex workers but is effectively a front for pimps pushing their decrim agenda. They support self-ID. They refuse to work with Mumsnet. And their General Secretary has just left in disgrace due to sexual assault or harassment allegations.

I'm so glad I'm a member of another union.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 28/05/2020 09:44

A union that caves to a handful of self righteous nobodies on social media is not one I'd trust to stand up for my rights.

At what point do you think that organisations will start to twig that an orchestrated social media pile on doesn't necessarily mean anything?

Do you think they'll ever realise that women are too afraid to speak out on this matter publicly, for fear of attracting vicious threats?

And do you think the phrase 'silent majority' means anything to them?

WhereAreWeNow · 28/05/2020 09:49

Anyone who is a GMB member who is resigning, please be sure to write to the General Secretary, the membership department, your branch secretary and your regional secretary. It's important they all understand how their members feel about this. When I left I just told my workplace rep why. He looked totally baffled and out of his depth. I should have also written to the GS and others.

Michelleoftheresistance · 28/05/2020 10:20

Gmb is back on site.

I'm afraid if they're gullible enough to have briefly championed male supremacist activism and told female people to know their place, when five minutes on Twitter should have been enough to think hang on a minute for anyone even halfway intelligent, then they're not a union I'd be giving money to for help in a crisis. Particularly being female and all.

Getting entangled with extremist political activism is not exactly the sign of a good organisation of anything.