Creepy AGP reviews on M&S website

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I've noticed quite a few online reviews from men of M&S lingerie. These knickers are the latest I've seen. 3 reviews, 2 of which are by men.
I get the feeling that the review is part of the AGP fetish. It reminds me of flashing in that it's intended to make women/girls feel uncomfortable/shocked/embarrassed. I've seen men reviewing bras from the "Angel" first bra range too.

The transwoman bra fitter might be a transwoman themselves. We can only hope and imagine how disappointed the apg transwoman customer will be while being fitted.

Actually, I'd love to see that. I wonder if they'd have a hissy fit because the fitter isn't a real woman.

Just to be clear, the transwoman bra fitter at Oxford Circus (iirc it's the Pantheon store, rather than the Marble Arch one) isn't a bra fitter who works with transwomen, they are a transwoman who works as a bra fitter.

Like the assistant in a local TK Maxx - could world in any other department (there are 2 floors of women’s clothes) but is working in the one with the lingerie.

Seem to remember a certain women's officer going berserk at a male member of staff being presented to search them at a night club and demanding a female member of staff to do it.

When asked if they would be fine with a male member of staff who said they identified as female, they said yes, that would do perfectly.

My eyes just don't roll that far. The games male people play with female lives and realities.

Clymene

Oh! Very different.
I had read it that M&S had employed someone to fit bras for transwoman.

When asked if they would be fine with a male member of staff who said they identified as female, they said yes, that would do perfectly

Ha yes they had their arse handed to them for assuming the door person's gender

What is it with these people so obssessed with forcing women to touch their body/junk.

They mentioned nothing about asking for a gender identity so the idea that the door person identifing as a woman would have been ok with the is nonsense.

I had read it that M&S had employed someone to fit bras for transwoman.

Sorry, no, I wasn't clear.

I don't know how it works but if a woman isn't comfortable with the transwoman fitting her bra, I wonder if that's a problem.

Might be a problem - it the woman can’t speak up.

I’m really surprised. I mean they aren’t exactly fetish material are they? I always assumed that cross dressers bought thongs from Victoria’s Secret. Also the word panties is just awful.

I've always hated that word too.

Ugh, just vile. Surely M&S should take those reviews down with they are so clearly the acting out of a fetish.

When they*

M&S vet every review before publishing. So they are well aware of the issue. But as we know from their changing rooms policy (there is a men's changing room in my M&S but not one designated as women's -even though it is at the back of the lingerie department), they have utter disdain for their core market.

I've buy my knickers on line. Do shop ones still have the plastic strip in the gusset?

Shouldn't Marks & Spencer's be putting a plastic strip all the way inside up the front, and over the top, now? If it's about hygiene, it needs to reflect the anatomy involved.

I've seen men reviewing bras from the "Angel" first bra range too

Ugh - that's grim.

Shouldn't Marks & Spencer's be putting a plastic strip all the way inside up the front, and over the top, now? If it's about hygiene, it needs to reflect the anatomy involved

Perhaps we should ask them.

A transwoman working as a bra fitter? And they say there are no incentives for men to transition!

A transwoman working as a bra fitter
In and of itself I have no problem with this. My only worry is are women allowed to say no I want a woman. Will m and s say well that are a woman, take them or dont bother. Are the women bold enough to say no in the first place. I guarantee in my late teens I may have felt badly and been worried more about how they would feel at my rejection than how I would feel after. So probably would have gone on with it feeling bloody terrible.

They not that sorry.

My 'friend' ran a little experiment with M&S customer service recently. She (adult human female) claimed to be a trans woman and made a complaint. She also submitted the same complaint without claiming to be anything other than an adult human female. Guess what happened? Her complaint as herself was completely ignored whilst her complaint as a trans woman was replied to within the day and £50 in vouchers sent as 'compensation' for her distress. I'd love to think I was making this up but I'm not

This is awful. Perhaps she should submit the mails to Baroness Nicholson.

Shouldn't Marks & Spencer's be putting a plastic strip all the way inside up the front, and over the top, now? If it's about hygiene, it needs to reflect the anatomy involved.

I'd never thought about it, but men's pants don't have a hygiene strip (TBH, the pants I bought recently for me didn't have one either - perhaps supermarkets don't bother these days).

Is it that vulvas are considered ickier than penises? Is it that men aren't expected to try pants on (does anything stop them though?)

This is something I'm going to think about whenever I'm in the boxers section now.

And laughing our heads off and saying how repugnant they are? Is that what passes as a ‘turn on’ these days?

For some men it absolutely does. This is why men with a sissification fetish are the worst people in the world to deal with because there is literally nothing you can say to them that they can't turn into a source of wanking material.

Is it a humiliation thing? Like the man at Victoria station who was being lead around on a dog lead by a dominatrix (now I assume she was being paid, but what about everyone else in the audience Concorse?)

The idea seems to be that being a woman is inherently humiliating and if someone "forces" you into it then that's sexy. The dreaded Kiwi Farms which we're supposed to apologize for being aware of has gazillions of men like that whose adventures they chronicle.