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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shropshire County Council has withdrawn the toolkit

131 replies

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 13/05/2020 17:57

Tweet from ShropshireReSisters at 14.47: Shropshire County Council have withdrawn the transgender tool kit. It took a little pressure and a lot of help from some wonderful people (I'd tag but they may not wish me to). Anyone else wanting to do the same in their area...do it!

WOOHOO!!!!

twitter.com/SResisters/status/1260567309623726080?s=19

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SarahTancredi · 14/05/2020 18:40

I might give mine an email. See if they will tell me....

And hope that they parents suddenly reminded to upload it.

I have searched on Google and on the council website nothing came up.

Is it worth emailing ssa do you think and see if they have a list?

SarahTancredi · 14/05/2020 18:41

That they arent suddenly reminded

Stupid phone Blush

Squeakycheese · 14/05/2020 18:44

Awesome, well done Shropshire!

MrsSnippyPants · 14/05/2020 19:18

Just following up on what SarahTancredi said upthread; if your MP is ignoring you please don’t let them get away with it, please pursue them if you can. But if you would like to anonymously ‘name and shame’ them, then DM @CUPWomensPledge on Twitter or DM me and I will pass it on.

We are now past the ‘softly softly’ approach with MPs and we are actively calling out those who refuse to take the rights of women and girls seriously. We are taking names and building a database of MPs who have been contacted and what their response (if any) was.

We are going full on Julia Long Grin

SarahTancredi · 14/05/2020 19:21

I have emails scheduled for monday as soon as dp leaves for work Wink

Ask him to reassure me that our local council is aware of the recent events and if local schools have been informed...

I will dm you in a few days of I get the radio silence. Thank you and keep up the good work

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/05/2020 19:30

Well done SSAUK & all the parents pushing back on this. TRAs have had it their own way for too long with unrestricted access to our children for their own designs. It is long overdue that parents call this out and insist that schools and LAs stop undermining safeguarding and children's wellbeing in order to pander to the demands of lobby groups.

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 14/05/2020 19:47

Looks like we've still got it but as it's East Sussex, I'm not at all surprised.

czone.eastsussex.gov.uk/media/1990/transgender-toolkit.pdf

Jintyfer · 14/05/2020 21:00

@SisyphusLangClegRocks

Hey, good find. Now you can act. Out of interest, what section of the council website did you find it in? I've searched ours (Bracknell Forest) but can't see anything related, but could be looking in the wrong places. Thnx.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 15/05/2020 08:09

@SisyphusLangClegRocks

Thanks for posting
Had a v quick peruse - the definition section includes ‘neither male or female’

The idiots involved in this toolkit should be sacked on those four words in themselves.

DickKerrLadies · 15/05/2020 08:16

Considering how keen the councils seem to be to withdraw them rather than defend them, why didn't they just not implement them in the first place if they are not fit for purpose? Surely they looked into it this deeply before releasing it to schools, and not only after someone challenged it?

Who was involved in getting these councils to implement the toolkit in the first place?

I'm guessing these are the sorts of questions we'd need a court to get answers for.

RoyalCorgi · 15/05/2020 09:37

All good questions, DickKerrLadies. As for who was involved in getting the councils to implement the toolkit, there's a clue in the Warwickshire guidance linked to above:

The following local authorities and organisations have contributed to the creation of this toolkit: Barnsley Metropolitan Borough Council, Birmingham City Council, Derbyshire County Council, Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council, Kent County Council, Leicester City
Council, Leicestershire County Council, Lincolnshire County Council, Nottinghamshire County Council, Oxfordshire County Council, Sheffield City Council, Warwickshire County Council, the Young Transgender Centre of Excellence at the Leicester LGBT Centre, and
Joe Butler at SEND Support (Special Educational Needs and Disability Consultancy and Training).
Special thanks go to Brighton and Hove City Council and Allsorts Youth Project for allowing some of the content of this toolkit to be based on their ‘Trans* Inclusion Schools Toolkit’, and to Gendered Intelligence for commentary on the final draft.

Weird, isn't it, how they seem to have consulted with a bunch of lobby groups but not, apparently, any lawyers or anyone with expertise in safeguarding?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/05/2020 09:47

Special thanks go to Brighton and Hove City Council and Allsorts Youth Project for allowing some of the content of this toolkit to be based on their ‘Trans* Inclusion Schools Toolkit’, and to Gendered Intelligence for commentary on the final draft.

No surprises there.

Lordfrontpaw · 15/05/2020 10:19

However, stonewall are pushing their own little lockdown education packs - inclusive of course - for parents and education... you can only imagine what’s on it.

KaronAVyrus · 15/05/2020 10:32

So they didn’t feel it was necessary to consult any parenting organisations? 🧐

Lordfrontpaw · 15/05/2020 10:36

I was looking a ‘maths’ question - dear lord above! Talk about propaganda!

Lordfrontpaw · 15/05/2020 10:47

Baroness Nichols is on the case...

NotAGirl · 15/05/2020 12:28

My local council is promoting the advice pack Cornwall council produced
www.intercomtrust.org.uk/item/55-schools-transgender-guidance-july-2015
I'd be interested in people's thoughts on this one

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 15/05/2020 15:56

Great news: it's put a big smile on my face Smile

SisyphusLangClegRocks · 16/05/2020 13:54

I couldn't find it on the site @Jintyfer, so I just used a Google search and it came up. All our schools come under the jurisdiction of Brighton, surprise, surprise...

Totally agree @ThinEndoftheWedge.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 17/05/2020 11:47

Good morning. I'm (relatively) new to this issue, for which I am quite sad. It's only quite recently that it's come onto my radar and that I've had the chance to look into the issues Sad Anyway, now to the future .....

My city council introduced the Toolkit in May 2018 and I can't see any evidence of it having been withdrawn. With the news from Oxfordshire and Shropshire, I would like my city council to follow suit.

Should I write to my MP about this and, if so, can anyone give me some pointers as to what to say? I don't need a copy and paste template or anything — I can write reasonably well — but I do tend to let my feelings shown in my communications and would like to get a concise communication to her (my MP), without getting over emotional (over what is a very emotive issue).

Is that the right thing for me to do? I'm sorry if I seem a little unsure; as I said I'm fairly new to the cause and I just want to add my voice in the appropriate way.

Thank you in advance for your advice and all the great work that you are doing on behalf of women everywhere Smile

RoyalCorgi · 17/05/2020 11:55

NiceLegs - I'd recommend writing to your county councillor and asking them to raise it, rather than to your MP. Though perhaps no harm in copying your MP on the letter.

What you need to do is calmly point out that the guidance doesn't comply with the Equality Act (gender identity is not a protected characteristic) and that it breaches basic safeguarding rules by recommending that boys should be allowed to share changing areas and dormitories with girls.

Safe Schools Alliance do have some templates that you can adapt to local circumstances: safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/letter-templates/

NonnyMouse1337 · 17/05/2020 12:11

Joe Butler at SEND Support (Special Educational Needs and Disability Consultancy and Training).
Special thanks go to Brighton and Hove City Council and Allsorts Youth Project for allowing some of the content of this toolkit to be based on their ‘Trans Inclusion Schools Toolkit’, and to Gendered Intelligence for commentary on the final draft.

We briefly touched on Joe Butler in the autism discussion thread. Seems like SEN schools will be awash with gender identity ideology as well.

network.autism.org.uk/knowledge/insight-opinion/supporting-trans-and-gender-questioning-autistic-pupils

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 17/05/2020 12:22

@RoyalCorgi

Thank you. Again, I'm just trying to get my head around all this. The Equality Act has gender reassignment as a protected characteristic. Does this differ from gender identity that you referred to?

Sorry for the questions. I'm quite a way behind but I do like to be in possession of the facts before I launch in (53 years and occasionally making an arse of myself over the years) has taught me that Blush

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/05/2020 12:31

Yes, gender identity includes a lot of other identities than a person identifying as the opposite sex. Cross dressing, non binary, genderfluid etc are not explicitly protected in law. Gender reassignment is when someone has begun a permanent process to change "gender". Unfortunately that is very woolly and can include virtually all males who permanently identify as women (and females who identify as males)

archive.acas.org.uk/genderreassignment

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