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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Petition based on lies and misinformation

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 29/03/2020 22:25

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1244332324671688712

This really is nauseating. A petition full of lies and misinformation has been posted on change.org in an attempt to prevent the LGB Alliance from being granted charity status.

As an old lesbian I am horrified that this kind of propaganda is being spread. Stonewall, the charity we set up and supported for decades has betrayed us completely. Their website now claims that homosexuality is a medical term for "orientation towards someone of the same gender".

Homosexuality is not, and never was an attraction to people who identify with the same gender based stereotypes. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, and homosexuals are attracted to people of the same sex. Telling young lesbians that they are bigots and transphobes because they can't train themselves to "cope" with the "female" penis is horrendously cruel, and deeply homophobic. Bisexuals are attracted to both sexes, if they were also attracted to all genders they would call themselves pansexual, not bi. Stonewall went looking for a way to stay relevant and well funded after gay marriage was attained, latched on to transgenderism and has been lobbying to undermine our rights and legal protections ever since.

We never wanted to have to go our own way. We wanted the organisation we created, Stonewall, to stand up for our legal rights. Only when it became completely clear that they had no intention of doing so, and in fact were lobbying hard to change existing laws that protect our sex based rights and right to our own sexual orientation did a new organisation become necessary.

Nobody is working to undermine or destroy Stonewall, we are happy to leave them to continue their chosen work of centering transgender people, and those who happily identify themselves as queer, along with all the other letters of the alphabet. We have just given up on hoping that they will represent us, and have chosen to leave and set up our own representation. To claim this is evidence of transphobia is nonsense. We are fully within our rights to build a group that supports our own special needs.

The LGB alliance centres the needs of lesbians, gays and bisexuals and stands up for our rights, it was greeted with relief and joy by lesbians, gays and bisexuals who had been watching in horror as Stonewall worked to erase us from history and from our own organisation.

The petition is purposefully misleading, it quotes biased articles from Pink News as if they were academic reference papers. I've reported it for being misleading, homophobic and hateful, and hope you will too.

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 30/03/2020 21:15

Hurrah! Thanks to everyone who defended this thread, and to everyone who finds and reports the spiteful, homophobic petition.

I've been a bit distracted today, and have only just had time to catch up with the thread, so I've been feeling stressed for having started it and then scuttled off. I needn't have worried.

It's awe inspiring and very educational to see how grey rocks, a wealth of factual information, and the cleansing sunlight of truth were all used to keep the thread on track. Thank you so much you brilliant, kind, caring women.

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TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 30/03/2020 21:51

I thought I was too cynical to be shocked but I was wrong. I reported it as defamation.

SonEtLumiere · 30/03/2020 22:18

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stumbledin · 30/03/2020 22:59

I cant believe the petition is still there and getting loads of signatures.

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Thinkingabout1t · 31/03/2020 01:02

Reported. Glad to support LGB people. Male supremacism harms us all — and what else can you call it when men demand access to women’s spaces, women’s organisations, even women’s bodies?

Staffori · 31/03/2020 03:30

I'm surprised LGB Alliance wants charitable status as I thought they would be more into political campaigning but, as someone who used to work for the Charity Commission, I can guarantee that the only thing that could prevent them from gaining charitable status would be if their objects did not meet the required criteria. There is the Law governing charities and there are petitions from hateful morons. Guess which one the Charity Commission goes by?

ChattyLion · 31/03/2020 09:06

Staffori that’s helpful to know. I think it’s great that are going for charity status- it confirms organisational transparency, gives public confidence when donating money, gives their spokespeople gravitas with many audiences, secures internal governance probity and sustainability, tax reasons, all of it.

Charities are still welcome to do political campaigns so long as they are within their legal purposes for being:

More here if anyone is interested:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/speaking-out-guidance-on-campaigning-and-political-activity-by-charities-cc9

OhHolyJesus · 31/03/2020 10:07

It's not the first, nor I expect it will be the last petition to libel The LGB Alliance, but it doesn't matter as they don't have legs.

Stephen Ireland did a 38 degrees one not long ago, it currently has 277 signatures, the last was about a month ago, the last comment 5 months ago. I'm sure Boris can't wait to receive it as promised.

Grey Rock to all disrupters, I pleased that the response from LGB A is to focus on the task in hand.

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