Zoe has gone woke

[MrsSnippyPants]

I’m sure they were asking for your ‘sex at birth’ previously?

It's nonsense. Assigned at birth is an intersex term.

Accuracy should lead to 'none' and is this only a question for intersex people?

Ah yes my friend sent me this link yo the app earlier. I was so annoyed at that bit I stopped.

Using obfuscating language in a global pandemic when they need accurate data is a headfuck.

So somebody has seen scientists working hard to try to save lives and their first thought was - 'are they assUMIN my gendah?'. Please.

This is horrible and makes me feel somewhat afraid. I don't want the people in charge of studying the spread of covid - 19 to be gender ideologues. I want their methods to be based on science and accurate data.

If someone was born in an area without medical support as standard during birth, they would have no sex then? According to this.

With Covid19 victims coming in at 70% male, it will be interesting to see what effect gender identity has on this.

Aren’t there bigger things to worry about
It’s clearly done to attract accurate data. A trans woman may well put ‘female’ so to gain clear biological data (e.g the one that matters!) they’re asking it in a woke way.
I don’t think they care about politics, they just want scientifically accurate data from a population of mostly non-scientific people. Anyone trans or otherwise will be able to answer it clearly unless they are a GC feminist that is just soo triggered by the question.

It asked me sex at birth then what I identify as now

Indeed. Triggered. Just as presumably all the gendah people were triggered by it asking for sex at birth, which is, of course, the term that matters.

Out of interest why is it called Zoe?

Rather than covid tracker or something

Why are so many apps and things given female names?

Another thread probably and one we've done before

It isn't 'triggering' Theyearofthestress it is scientifically and linguistically incorrect, so do calm down the hyperbole. If they want answers from 'non-scientific people' then they should just ask what your sex at birth is, as they clearly did previously. Obviously someone was so 'triggered' by that question that they have changed it. It isn't about fucking politics, it's SCIENCE.

Most of us in here are capable of caring about more than one thing at once you know, due to our ladybrains being capable of multi-tasking

Triggered ? Nah - I leave that to those who can’t clearly state what sex they are, always have been and always will be. Personally I’d rather they were triggered and the rest of us could carry on employing clarity of language and rational thought both of which have always served us rather well.

For gods sake. Why would anyone except the most outrageous of narcissists stuck down their own rabbithole want to lobby the NHS or UCL or whoever it is on such a thing, at a time like this and a time when it is known that this disease has a sex bias in severity?

Publicly gathered data needs to ask the clearest and simplest possible questions of the public, many of whom will be feeling ill and stressed when they are trying to enter data.
Why are the organisers pissing about obscuring the questions for the majority of people and at the same time making the question offensively political in a way that is objectionable to others. It makes no difference here for COVID symptoms records purposes what someone identifies as. It just isn’t relevant.

They could very reasonably just ask ‘were you born male or female’, which covers every human being born, regardless of their subsequent identity thoughts, which are not relevant to this data gathering exercise.

That way nobody would be confused and the data the researchers gathered wouldn’t be potentially mucked up by people not knowing what to answer because we all really know that babies are not ‘assigned’ a sex arbitrarily at birth. Plus even I as a GC woman find it hard to know what to write when asked what my gender identity is.

The way ‘round this is to send them an emailing politely saying have they considered that this question is not very inclusive of people for whom English isn’t their first language? And don’t they want accurate data from that approximately 5-10% of the population?

Make them feel bad for not being woke enough - it’s the only thing that will have an effect.

I also find that really scary.

The question originally was what sex you were born - options male/female - when I started about four or five days ago. I remember finding it refreshingly to the point. There is no need to know what gender I do or do not identify as, coronavirus does not care.

Wait so originally it just asked what sex you were when you were born and the TRA decided that the most useful thing they could do when the uk faces a pandemic was lobby a social enterprise to add in “assigned at birth”? Their narcissism really does know no bounds

Correct. Their narcissism is also met with meek accommodation at every turn.

BeetrootRocks

Out of interest why is it called Zoe?

Now that is an interesting question.

It’s so stupid. Why don’t they just ask what sex you were at birth.

Assigned is like what does that even mean

Assigned is so stupid to use.

Whatever anyone 'identifies' as, the risk is higher for males. It's blunt and it needs to be.

Zoe is the name of the company.

"It's George who named the company – ZOE means 'life' in Greek, his mother tongue."

joinzoe.com/about-us

'The free monitoring app was developed as a partnership between researchers at King’s and health data science company ZOEE_ - itself a spin-out from King’s - and is widely available, at no cost, to health staff and the general public who wish to contribute to this research.'

www.kcl.ac.uk/news/symptom-tracker-app-hits-15-million-uk-users

Should we really talk about ‘mother tongue’ in this day and age. We all know there are no mothers. Only birthing persons.

Still the choice of name is interesting

But definitely another thread