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Queercare

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LindaSmithfanclub · 20/03/2020 09:44

On a thread in the Coronavirus section I came across the mention of a group called Queercare being recommended as a source of assistance. So I checked it out and found this:

queercare.network/

Apparently

QueerCare is a transfeminist autonomous care organisation, providing training, support and advocacy for trans and queer people in the uk (and further afield).

This is a field I know nothing much about but in the section on advocacy
they say this, which rings alarm bells.

^Our advocates are not independent mental capacity advocates – such a role implies a control over capacity we are not willing to be complicit in – we stand for the patient’s wishes regardless of what the medical system has determined their capacity to be. We are willing to push not just through official channels but through a diversity of tactics.

Our advocates resist at all turns nonconsenusal incarceration (be it in the form of traditional imprisonment or the use of the mental health/capacity acts) and will not compromise with the institutions of healthcare to win our fight.

That said, our advocates all prefer de-escalating situations, and situations where direct action has been desirable have not evidenced themselves yet.

Our advocates are, as such, trained beyond the standards expected of independent mental capacity advocates – extensive healthcare training is provided, allowing them to better understand and communicate the risks to patients, and symptoms to clinical staff^

Clearly a strong link between mental health issues and being a transwoman. Anyone heard of this lot before? Are they new?

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unwashedanddazed · 20/03/2020 11:02

Reading their description of advocacy and what they would like to provide in the future I suspect this is a toned down version of Action For Trans Health, the lunatic organisation set up by Jess Bradley, that went silent when his antics went public. The AFTH manifesto demanded release of all trans prisoners and the training up of trans people so they could carry out their own medical interventions.

The shop on the link you provided sells antifa/antiterf/acab products. Not quite the benign advocacy group the site seems to be trying to portray.

I think their main purpose might be to accompany trans people to appointments in order to help with bullying healthcare workers.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 20/03/2020 11:13

Linguistically, those paragraphs are an intriguing attempt to get the message across that they are keen to use less than pleasant or even illegal means to achieve their aims, without directly saying it.

They use jargon phrases and a certain flowery pomposity to achieve this. So they don't believe in locking in anyone up against their will for any reason, and will fight attempts to do so. They use the phrase 'not just through official channels but a diversity of tactics'. And that they will not compromise in their fight.

They 'prefer de-escalation' and say that a 'situation has not yet evidenced' itself where they would need to escalate, with the clear implication that they would be willing to do so.

Basically, Antifa with some lippy on.

BovaryX · 20/03/2020 11:18

we stand for the patient’s wishes regardless of what the medical system has determined their capacity to be. We are willing to push not just through official channels but through a diversity of tactics

Well doesn't that sound ominous? What organisation stands for the patient's wishes irrespective of mental capacity? What if the patient wishes to amputate their arms, glue on angel wings and fly out the window?

OneEpisode · 20/03/2020 17:51

They don’t believe in specialisation in primary care, and their Amazon wish list includes surgical scissors?

R0wantrees · 20/03/2020 17:52

Dr Cable, is this Ada- supporter of T Wolf?

queercare.network/help-out/shop/resources/medical-detention-pocket-guide/

Queercare
OneEpisode · 20/03/2020 17:59

On the hoodie “Description
Feel stylish as you show off your support for community care and your opposition to bad people, with this unisex cut hoodie featuring the “Queercare Medics – Antifascist – Antiterf” design.”

unwashedanddazed · 20/03/2020 18:37

You're right R0, it is Ada cable, tweets confirm it @adacable, in between begging for running shoes to help distress from coronavirus panic.

Maria writes about Cable here www.skepticat.org/not-a-doctor-ada-cable/

LindaSmithfanclub · 20/03/2020 20:20

Glad others better-informed than me are able to make the links.

Are they using Covid-19 as a way of legitimisation?

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 20/03/2020 20:25

I noticed all the links earlier, but real life stopped me following up straight away and it slipped my mind.

Worrying.

Nickname34 · 20/03/2020 20:33

In a word, yes, yes they are using the Coronovirus crisis as a way to give them legitimisation.

Gingerkittykat · 21/03/2020 00:21

Well doesn't that sound ominous? What organisation stands for the patient's wishes irrespective of mental capacity? What if the patient wishes to amputate their arms, glue on angel wings and fly out the window?

I used to be a mental health advocate and it is their job to allow the patient to express their wishes and put their point across no matter how harmful their position is. The mental health professionals and tribunals would then decide what action to take but patients always have a right to be heard.

Saying they will potentially use violence to stop forced incarceration is very sinister though. Do they truly think their violence would stop someone being arrested or sectioned?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 21/03/2020 08:46

I went on a website set up to coordinate efforts to help one another with day to day things during the corona crisis. Can’t remember what it was called. It was mentioned on this website. It had links through to Queercare.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 21/03/2020 11:19

It was this website: covidmutualaid.org

On the front page:

"PRIORITISE SAFETY: Community care is about preventing the spread of Covid-19 and providing support for the most vulnerable. Before engaging in a mutual aid project, please familiarise yourself with Queercare’s guidelines on how to support others without spreading the infection. Those who are self isolating can get involved in online or phone based organising. "

the phrase "Queercare's guidelines" is this link: queercare.network/our-work/resources/covid-19/

"What is Covid Mutual Aid UK?
Covid Mutual Aid UK is a group of volunteers supporting local community groups organising mutual aid throughout the covid-19 outbreak in the UK. We focuss on providing resources and connecting people to their nearest local groups, willing volunteers and those in need.

We recognise that injustice doesn’t affect everyone equally and whilst we’re all at risk of covid-19, there are some people who are more vulnerable and need greater support from the community.

The basic idea is to coordinate care efforts for people who are self isolating, especially if they are part of a more at risk demographic including the eledery, disabled and people with other pre existing health issues.

We’re also trying to offer support to those people who are feeling most isolated/anxious throughout the pandemic. For people with mental health conditions this scale of panic can be overwhelming and so community support is vital.

We’re a new group who have set up over the past few days. As such we’re still working out how to most effectively organise together and make our information accessible. Please be patient with us and if you have ideas or something to contribute to the organising, get in touch. "

It is really odd.

LindaSmithfanclub · 21/03/2020 11:38

Why are they promoting themselves as medics? Is that an image of bandages on the sticker? And hoodies with the word 'medic' on... Is that all part of building respectability on the back of the pandemic panic? 'You can trust us, we're medics'?

Is anyone allowed to present themselves as a medic, or is it a bit like being able to say you're a lawyer but not a solicitor or a barrister?

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WrathofFaeKlopp · 21/03/2020 12:22

Queercare
We’re focused on helping trans women and people who experience tranmisoginy, but we help as many people as we can, especially queer and trans people of all genders, and those unable to access other services

A self styled transfeminist group.

Men colonising women's spaces.

Is anyone allowed to present themselves as a medic
Probably and deliberately so.
It's a word to watch out for.

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