Labour suspends Trevor Phillips because he identified who made up child grooming gangs

[jadefinch]

Trevor Phillips is the former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission - and he's recently been accused of 'transphobia' for saying women's same-sex spaces should be protected.

He's now been suspended by Labour for accurately saying that the majority of members of northern grooming gangs, which sexually abused tens of thousands of vulnerable girls, were Pakistani Muslim men.

One of the main reasons why the girls were put at risk was because the police and local authorities didn't want to intervene in case they were accused of Islamophobia.

Labour's war on both women and the freedom to say things that are true is not going away.

news.sky.com/story/labour-veteran-trevor-phillips-suspended-over-islamophobia-allegations-11953457

I think it's more to do with the right wing press trying to divert attention away from this:

mcb.org.uk/press-releases/mcb-submits-new-dossier-of-conservative-islamophobia-to-ehrc-with-evidence-of-over-300-individuals/

I think it's more to do with the right wing press trying to divert attention away from this:
Just like the anti-Semitism cock-up was made up to make Corbyn look bad?

The Labour Party have booted out Trevor Phillips. Surely that is newsworthy? It's such a spectacular own goal.

Of course it was the men who abused the girls. We all know that some men will abuse and sexually exploit girls if they can get away with it. When the police are getting reports that is happening, as they did in Rotherham, it is their job to prosecute the men. They didn't. They failed in their legal responsibility.

And yes Labour are going to get damned over their obvious anti Semitism that those who support Corbyn keep denying. Rubbishing those involved in an enquiry investigating you, just before they publish a damning report, is a very old political tactic. An easy way of trying to deflect attention and saying that the report is biased and thus rubbish.
Of course that tactic won't really work except with those who already support Corbyn and disbelieve anyone that points out obvious Antisemitism in Labour. With those who recognise the Antisemitism, it will just make us more convinced that Labour is not fit for purpose.

Sorry, the right wing press has made labour send Phillips an 11 page letter detailing his Islamophobia?

Wow, they really do have a lot of power

alloutoffucks OP you are wrong. I have read the full reports into cases like Rotherham. The main reason girls were put at risk was because professionals like the police thought they were just "slags" rather than victims.

But who actually perpetrated the child rapes and other assaults? Risk can exist but not become tragedy if people don't think here's my opportunity, take advantage & tell their associates to do the same.

Sarah Champion was ousted from her role on the front bench if I remember for what she said about the grooming gangs. The last Conference I attended appeared to have many Kashmiri Muslims wearing Free Palestine badges. These and students appear to be the voter base for Labour these days. Canvassers out in the last election had the door slammed in their faces by Jewish voters. These are the sad facts I'm afraid.

@ewwsprouts And surely everyone knows on the feminism board that some men will always see an opportunity to abuse girls and take it?

I think even stupid Labour would not go after one of it's own rather than see the Tories come under "phobia" scrutiny for a change. The fact that Labour have in fact succeeded in giving the BBC a new shiny object to focus on has less to do with the Tories, and more to do with them wishing to deflect from the rampant anti-semitism in their ranks and going on a witch hunt against anyone who crossed their God, Corbyn.

And surely everyone knows on the feminism board that some men will always see an opportunity to abuse girls and take it?

Of course. And ALL the different patterns of abuse need to be called out and addressed.

Saying 'oh white men do it too' is not a get out clause to not address Muslim Asian male groups.

As someone who grew up in a town where Asian grooming gangs operated, then moved to a city where it was also happening, I can tell you that everybody knew. The fact that it was allowed to continue unchallenged did more to damage community cohesion than anything else.

Just like a lot of LGB people deeply resent the gender stasi operating in their name, most Muslims I knew deeply resented those gangs of young men being allowed to define their community.

The Labour Party are making careers getting offended on other peoples’ behalf. People they know nothing about and whose oppinions they don’t give a fuck about. They only represent themselves, and that is why every day they’re hammering more nails into their political coffin.

Sensible grown ups, please stand up.

alloutoffucks You would hope so but in the context of this discussion your comment gave only a partially accurate summary of those reports.

Sorry, the right wing press has made labour send Phillips an 11 page letter detailing his Islamophobia?

And it's all because they hate Magic Granddad!

I feel like there's a significant portion of the Labour faithful that needs some sort of counselling to come to terms with the fact that it wasn't a vast right wing conspiracy that robbed them of victory, they cocked it up themselves.

I grew up in an area with a large Muslim population. The openly expressed attitude of some Muslim men towards women is absolutely disgusting and it is more prevalent and tolerated than in other communities. Let's not pretend it isn't. You are doing victims of abuse a great disservice if you refuse to let them speak openly about the facts surrounding their abuse.

Like, you know the stages of grief? They've been stuck in "denial" for months.

If it's a conspiracy by the right wing press, it means that Labour is controlled by the right wing press.

Nobody complained about Phillips, Labour spontaneously decided his thinking needed checked and suspended him.

Anybody who thinks its a conspiracy is saying that Momentum is controlled by the Conservatives.

Logic, but not as we know it.

If we must have a symbolic lefty granddad I'd rather have Phillips as mine than Corbyn!

@MangoesAreMyFavourite I did not do that. Please do not accuse me of excusing abuse when I did no such thing. Bloody strawman if ever there was one.

@MidnightJasmine Also in the North and I wrote to my MP asking for her definition of womanhood. Not a peep. Nothing on her social media or website, either.

Islam is no more or less patriarchal than Christianity or Judaism. Conservative Islam is as misgynistic as any other kind of conservative religion.

The problem is Baraderi and control of mosques, around a third of which in the UK still have no provided space for women to pray.

And the reluctance of the police to call out muslim men in northern towns was as much if not more to do with a fear of a white backlash than of being PC PC's.

If we must have a symbolic lefty granddad I'd rather have Phillips as mine than Corbyn!

100%!!

Me 3!

I realise I shouldn’t say this but I’ve always felt that Trevor gets away with saying what he does, not only because it all makes such good sense but also because he is black.

He referenced the long history of Islam in his genes, interrupted by a bit of trans Atlantic slavery, on the Today programme.

Trevor Phillips might have been a long-standing member of the Labour Party but as far back as I can remember, he never let his political philosophy influence his observations which were carefully thought out, measured, grounded in fact and non-partisan. That was why he was - and still is - hugely respected right across the political spectrum.

If there is no place in the Labour Party for someone like Trevor Phillips, then there is no hope for any of us - and I speak as a Conservative. I have no more wish to live in a one-party state than anyone else. It is not the foundation of a healthy democracy. Yet we are on our way to becoming one.

There are decent people in the Labour Party. I know there are. They need to speak up for Trevor Phillips and they need to take back their party.

Sarah Champion was forced out of labour's shadow cabinet by JC. She technically resigned but then later admitted she was forced out and said that JC had no idea about what communities outside of metropolitan areas like London were like.
That was the moment I knew that i could never vote for Labour under JC. It was so obvious that one of the key learnign points of the Rotherham, and other area, child abuse scandals was that people must not be made to feel afraid to speak out when they see this happening for fear of being called a racist. And here he was making a public example of someone for talking about about how we need to address the ethnic cultural issues which led to these groups of men to think it was ok to do what they do. How can we prevent future offending if we refuse to recognise all the factors that led to the offending?

Now the labour party have just shown me how I can't vote for them ever again. Or at least not unless they change into a completely different party.

Of course, the links to the gender ideology issues are also obvious.
Self identified woke lefties, prepared to put aside the safe guarding of women and girls, so that they can maintain their own identities of wokeness and the cult of 'inclusion'.

I'm so done with the the left,. I really am. They have really proved themselves to be a bunch of unprincipled, illogical, irrational, incoherent, self-obsessed idiots. They are more motivated by maintaining the internal sense of self they want to have than of actual speaking out for the most vulnerable. I'm done.

Interestingly, and unsurprisingly, the real life lefties I know who are pro gender ideology also refuse to recognise the cultural element to the sex scandal. Talk about failing to learn lessons.

Indeed. I don't want to be part of a Labour Party that has no place in it for Trevor Phillips.