Labour suspends Trevor Phillips because he identified who made up child grooming gangs

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Trevor Phillips is the former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission - and he's recently been accused of 'transphobia' for saying women's same-sex spaces should be protected.

He's now been suspended by Labour for accurately saying that the majority of members of northern grooming gangs, which sexually abused tens of thousands of vulnerable girls, were Pakistani Muslim men.

One of the main reasons why the girls were put at risk was because the police and local authorities didn't want to intervene in case they were accused of Islamophobia.

Labour's war on both women and the freedom to say things that are true is not going away.

news.sky.com/story/labour-veteran-trevor-phillips-suspended-over-islamophobia-allegations-11953457

Labour know their majority vote in small towns like mine, rely on the Muslim vote to maintain power

This implies that all Muslims are fine with grooming gangs, and would not support a leader who criticised them. This assumption is pretty islamophobic itself.

Just heard him on LBC - the parallels with transphobia are so clear.

If I understood him, he said he's been suspended for 'Islamophobia' for 'targeting Muslimness' in an article he wrote several years ago about the Rotherham grooming gang. But when he previously asked the party for a definition of 'Muslimness' they failed to give him one.

Labour cannot define what transphobia or islamophobia is, but will still nonetheless suspend members for them.

And at the same time it can define what anti-Semitism is but won't suspend members for meeting the criteria.

What the fuck are Labour on? Seriously. Where’s the self reflection. The political leadership. The acceptance of responsibility. The safeguarding of important democratic principles. Are they acting out one of their stages of grief or something.. the lashing out phase? If they were a person I would be really worried about them. They’re leaving so many of us with nobody to vote for. It’s a political tragedy what they are doing to themselves and I am very sad that they are trying to take down Trevor Philips.

Philips would be an excellent person to start my proposed Party For Leftists Who're Not Batshit Crazy, if he finds himself at a loose end.

I'm ... Dunno... Boggled at the utter stupidity of a party that can throw out one of its most respected members because he said something that is true.

Uncomfortably true, but true nonetheless.

The contrast between this and Labour's handling of anti-Semitism is stark. It makes the party look stupid, venal and ideologically nutty in one single hit.

OP you are wrong. I have read the full reports into cases like Rotherham. The main reason girls were put at risk was because professionals like the police thought they were just "slags" rather than victims.

Bezalelle

I did not imply that the majority of Muslims support grooming gangs, what I said is the Labour Party still ignore it, in fear of losing the block vote - it isn't me that thinks and acts on that, it's the Labour Party, so who is racist?

Please feel free to Google CSE victim, Victoria Agogolia and Operation Augusta the ongoing scandal in GMCA. Even the Coroner lied to cover up her death. It is only now there is an emerging CSE scandal in Oldham a town with a history of race riots that GMCA a Labour run Council decided to do anything about it.

Mishal Husein's interview with the bloke from the Muslim Council of Great Britain just now was woeful. She didn't challenge him at all. He accused Philips of cherry-picking and then went on to cherrypick.

As for his accusations that Philips said that fostering a Christian child in a Muslim family is child abuse, that isn't what he said. He said that placing a child into a very strict burqa wearing non English speaking family who took the child's crucifix away was abusive. It wasn't the family who he said were abusive, it was tower hamlets.

Apparently there is an 11 page letter of accusations.

But it's okay to be anti Semitic because Jews deserve all they get eh Jennie?

Where are the NAPMALTers?

Usually there would have been about three by now..

OP you are wrong. I have read the full reports into cases like Rotherham. The main reason girls were put at risk was because professionals like the police thought they were just "slags" rather than victims.

Yes, I've read the various reports too. What do you think OP has said which is wrong? Institutional fear of appearing racist, particularly in the local authority, was absolutely one of the factors. There were several.

It’s a political tragedy what they are doing to themselves

It is. I've never been a labour supporter but our democracy needs strong, sensible opposition holding government to account not 'eating itself'. (Well, IMO it needs to get rid of the distorting grip of FPTP but that's too unlikely to happen to be worth discussing)

The Labour Party are racist in my area as they still sacrifice young girls & some boys of mainly but not exclusively white backgrounds and then don't address the issue to maintain their vote.

Trevor Phillips? Really. The world has assuredly gone mad

Yes the police ignored the girls who they thought were slags. But we also need to understand what drove those grooming gangs.

@alloutoffucks - the people responsible for the grooming and rape - were the grooming gangs and rapists - Yes the police were shit - Yes the council and by extension some local services turned a blind eye - All the above was acknowledged as a thorny issue because of Race - which was ignored - - the veteran wonderful Labour MP Anne Cryer - was called a racist when she raised the issue in keighley

Could this be the death knell for the Labour Party? It really does seem to be disappearing right up its own arse. From the party we looked to for social justice, to this bunch of deluded, bigoted authoritarian zealots. Horrifying.

Woah MidnightJasmine maybe a bit of clarity about what you mean by Labour sacrificing young girls - because without detail that sounds a bit of an extreme position, like an accusation of burning them in a wicker man or something

I think the LP is a ‘victim of its own success’ in many ways, having attended a CLP meeting for the first time recently. The systems and organisation of the whole party is creaking under the massive weight of a rapidly inflated membership and quite simply cannot cope.

It's so weird contrasting this attempt to monster Phillips, who for as long as I can remember has always been well liked and respected by most people, with the "oh Jeremy Corbyn" bollocks from before the election. I'm not sure if they have no idea who the public does and doesn't like and trust, or if they do know and that's why they're trying to eliminate the competition.

(Within their own party. Why fight the Tories when you can destroy your own party from the inside?)

any words from the candidates?

" A proposed new definition of Islamophobia could be used as a “bully’s charter” by Muslims to silence critics and promote intolerant views, a former equalities chief has warned"

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/19/new-islamophobia-definition-could-bullys-charter-warns-former/amp/

@xxyzz Seriously isn't it bleeding obvious why they have picked on Trevor Phillips now? He was the former head of the EHRC, which Labour are DESPARATE to attack, as it is due to report on massive anti-Semitism in Labour any day now. And they are about to be found hugely guilty. Corbyn's inner circle - particularly Formby, who is about to be found personally responsible for the worst excesses of Labour anti-Semitism, are searching for any stick to beat the EHRC with, and some of their more cultish, racist members will happily swallow that the investigation into Labour anti-Semitism is all part of an Islamophobic plot. Join the dots, people!

Yup, agree with this completely (I am Jewish and have been very involved in the battle against Labour antisemitism, fwiw).

Why him, why now? We have members spouting the most awful and offensive sexist and racist things - and yes they carry on.

Labour have completely lost my support. I will never vote for them again. I agree with pp that this is a knee jerk reaction to the anti Semitism fluff up so now they are acting like woke saviours.

I will not forget their campaign of repression of women. If you stand for the hurt feelings of rapists and men calling themselves women above protecting vulnerable women and girls you have no place in government as far as I'm concerned.

CSE - a crime perpetuated mostly by males.

Different aspects including grooming gangs, consuming online images, campaigns for relaxing safeguarding and yes, a police force blind to its own institutional misogyny, are all relevant and all likely to be driven by different subcategories of male.

I think it's important we talk about all of these men.

@MidnightJasmine

What’s going on in Oldham?