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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Woman' is taken

52 replies

womaninblue · 19/02/2020 20:55

Can we have some t-shirts with this on them, please?

I'm so angry with the transwoman on The Moral Maze who thinks that because there's something she calls a 'family resemblance' ie, she looks a bit like a woman, that that's enough to be a woman. That in itself is a really revealing demonstration of how little respect transwomen like her
hold for women and how superficial they are.

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 19/02/2020 21:02

Yep moobs & long hair does not a woman make...
A prostate otoh always belongs to a man

WomanIsTaken · 19/02/2020 21:10

Yes to tees and stickers!

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 19/02/2020 21:11

Ha ha WomanIsTaken Great minds!!

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 19/02/2020 21:11

and yes to tees and stickers
very much yes

womaninblue · 19/02/2020 21:14

That's an improvement:

The word woman is taken.

It was a zinger.

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EmpressLangClegInChair · 19/02/2020 21:15

Was that Jane Fae? The same Jane Fae who said that many murders are the result of ‘domestic violence gone wrong’ and down to women having eggshell skulls?

'Woman' is taken
womaninblue · 19/02/2020 21:20

No, I'm pretty sure it was Glinner and it was said in an exasperated 'The word woman is already taken by women, go and find your own ruddy word for yourselves' way. Hence my request to have a t-shirt to that effect.

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NutRoastNancy · 19/02/2020 21:22

Great idea, I listened to the first guest on that show and could not listen any longer, makes me too angry!

littlbrowndog · 19/02/2020 21:24

Was fae not a person who advocated porn ?

littlbrowndog · 19/02/2020 21:25

Oh yeah and women’s skulls were to weak to cope with being battered on the head and then dying

So weak

Michelleoftheresistance · 19/02/2020 21:32

Porn of the kind that involves murdering and dismembering women, yes. Has stood in court rooms defending men's rights to write this in loving detail, and not about fictional characters but fantasies about real named women.

Fae's contempt for females is not something Fae troubles to hide.

MartiniDry · 19/02/2020 21:36

Dear god, and what does a woman "look like"? Grace Jones? Peachyogurt? Maureen Lipman? Meghan Markle? Esther Rantzen? Zara Philips? Miranda Hart?

Give me strength! And still we're expected to use female pronouns for people like that one? 🙄

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 19/02/2020 21:40

It was funny to hear Fae doing the huffing thing again when they didn't like the question.

FleetsumNLangCleg · 19/02/2020 21:42

I want that t shirt

The Word Woman Is Taken

Melroses · 19/02/2020 21:45

That was quite a Moment. Smile

WomanIsTaken · 19/02/2020 21:48

I was so surprised that JF was invited as a witness with JF's track record. JF has written some shocking things and should be held accountable, to the tune of "To the stand in this evening's Moral Maze, we welcome JF, advocate of extreme porn, domestic violence sceptic and misogynist."
I find it infuriating that JF is allowed a platform to speak to a trusting and likely uninitiated R4 audience as some kind of expert or authority without JF's misdemeanors against womankind being highlighted.
Shit!

WomanIsTaken · 19/02/2020 21:51

Oh, hello TheWordWomanIsTaken, indeed Wink

SawingForTeens · 19/02/2020 21:53

Yes, good one Woman!

MoleSmokes · 21/02/2020 04:06

"Woman" and "Women" - they are both taken Grin

The transcript of the whole programme is on Mumsnet, courtesy of wonderful @Pombear Star

Moral Maze - Radio 4 8pm 19 Feb - Transcript

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3827771-Moral-Maze-Radio-4-8pm-19-Feb-Transcript?msgid=94093696

MS: Mona Siddiqui, Professor of Islamic and Inter-religious studies at Edinburgh University

GL: Graham Linehan

MS: Yes but I mean the, the point is that this whole debate is very complex and it’s very sensitive and it will continue to be complex. There can’t really be any hard and fast rules and, one of the things you’ve just said, I want to pick up on, is that, if only women are females, what name do we give to men who are suffering body dysphoria?

GL: Well, whatever name you like, it’s just the word "women" is taken. Star

AnyOldSpartabix · 21/02/2020 07:05

That was one of those wonderful moments when a load of waffle and appealing for kindness is met with a statement of such clarity that it’s breathtaking.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 21/02/2020 07:34

It’s interesting that they brought up what Glinner has previously said - or think he said - but didn’t call out the bullshit from Jane Fae.

So Jane - in your experience as a real woman - how should domestic violence which has - in your words - gone wrong be conducted so it goes right?

Domestic abusers/murders are all ears...

FamilyOfAliens · 21/02/2020 07:49

That was one of those wonderful moments when a load of waffle and appealing for kindness is met with a statement of such clarity that it’s breathtaking.

And the fact that it was said in the most calm and rational way, with none of the usual “IT’S MA’AM!!!” - type frothing you tend to get from the other side.

Bezalelle · 21/02/2020 08:02

My DH saw a guy at his climbing gym yesterday wearing a T-shirt that said:

I support women and cis women

WTAF!

Mockersisrightasusual · 21/02/2020 08:06

Poor starving Glinner who can't get no work better get this registered as a trademark quick.

snowblight · 21/02/2020 08:49

I can guess who's spotted a money-making opportunity already.