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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour trans promise on radio 2 Jeremy Vine

70 replies

2stepsonthewater · 14/02/2020 12:11

Coming up today - just announced. Phone in!

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/02/2020 12:44

JV posing a good point re deciding to be a woman tomorrow.

Male body...

Good on JV.

ClosdesMouches · 14/02/2020 12:44

Yes, tombakers. It's a disgusting way he framed it.

RunSkipJump · 14/02/2020 12:45

I wish a presenter would ask a "TWAW" advocate - "so do you believe humans can change sex? Really?"

Tombakersscarf · 14/02/2020 12:46

KH should have corrected that.
It's coming back to feelz isn't it, a genuine transwoman wouldn't attack a woman - so where is this test that proves who is genuine?

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/02/2020 12:46

The Kate Harris is right regarding what children may be taught.

A teacher has written a children's book saying that a girl who eschews pink and likes trousers and getting muddy is actually a boy.

This Is Me: The Girl Who Was Really a Boy https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/190932079X/ref=cmswwrcppapiii_WAPrEb3NXKWH2

magicrainbowbeans · 14/02/2020 12:47

Good she kept going at the end there, despite attempt at interruption

LouHotel · 14/02/2020 12:47

Finished my run now walking around my block fist pumping for Kate.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 14/02/2020 12:48

Oh well, as long as you are "genuinely" pretending to be a woman, come on in to female spaces.

FUCK OFF HELENA YOU TRAITOROUS LOON.

LouHotel · 14/02/2020 12:49

Would put record on channel 5 on Monday as he usually follows up on his discussions then. Hope he invites Kate on.

Daughterofmabel · 14/02/2020 12:50

Tra woman typical of their 'arguments' no logic or coherence so interupt people and shout over them. Wonder when she will start insulting Kate

2stepsonthewater · 14/02/2020 12:50

Jeremy V has put some tough questions to the journo. Good on him! The difficulty is there are so many huge issues bound up in this - hard to get across in short interview answers.

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Tombakersscarf · 14/02/2020 12:51

JV has just defined transphobia as "people who disagree with"
So it's just disagreement now that makes you transphobic?

ClosdesMouches · 14/02/2020 12:52

Yes but how are we supposed to know who is genuine and who isnt? FFS
Girls are being told to 'ignore their discomfort'..

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/02/2020 12:53

I wish Kate had commented on "living as a woman" as being essentially sexist as what does that mean other than "feminine" presentation?

Daughterofmabel · 14/02/2020 12:53

Transwoman on now saying tw in prisons who assault women are not genuine tw.

Apollo440 · 14/02/2020 12:53

Surely JV is highlighting the absurdity of labelling everything as transphobic

Daughterofmabel · 14/02/2020 12:55

Yay Fionn pointing out woman is born female!

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/02/2020 12:55

This is where the trans people are "more likely to be a victim of hate crime" is an issue as she used it against women, for whom hate crimes are not recognised but for whom violence against them and murder is vastly higher than trans people.

2stepsonthewater · 14/02/2020 12:58

Fionn - excellent, thank you for speaking out!

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 14/02/2020 12:59

Just catching up... got to "it depends" on transwomen and lesbians... FML!! She's trying very, very hard isn't she?

Newuser123123 · 14/02/2020 12:59

Ffion talking absolute sense!

Lordfrontpaw · 14/02/2020 13:01

Helena who?

refusetobeasheep · 14/02/2020 13:02

Sunlight .... Jeremy sounded astounded that a trans woman would know she is not a woman.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/02/2020 13:03

Yes Fionne pointing out sexism!!!

Apollo440 · 14/02/2020 13:03

What was it the trans pledge that most of the labour leadership candidates signed, something about there was no clash between trans rights and women's rights. I rather think there is. Keep going. More sunlight. The wheels are falling off