Menstruators and people who have periods

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Well, this has enraged me, and I am wondering if I am being unreasonable?

Audible has a sale on, and I was looking to see if there was anything worth buying, and the book “period power” was listed.
The blurb has left me enraged, and I wouldn’t now buy it even if I really was interested. (Aware I am cutting off my nose). Is it just me???

It’s not just you.

This push towards unclear language, which is meant to be ‘inclusive’ but ultimately puts many women off is such a backwards step.

I no longer menstruate, but I was never, ever a ‘menstruator’. How ironic is it, in a time when we are told it’s appalling to define people by their disorders or afflictions, that women’s right to be called women who menstruate is being removed.

I can’t wait for this excessive repression of women in the literary world passes and we can return to using normal language when we are speaking about women.

All that said...

Buy the book if you want it. Maisie Hill describes herself as a women’s health specialist in the very first line and carries on in the same vein. If that blurb is attached to Audible, is it possible to buy it from another source?

How can it possibly be profound when it won't talk about reality?

Women and our nasty dirty bodies are becoming unmentionable again.

Oscars rejects postpartum support ad as 'too graphic'
“‘Feminine hygiene & hemorrhoid relief’ are also banned subjects.”
thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/482167-oscars-rejects-postpartum-support-ad-as-too-graphic

PEOPLE who have periods! Not women who have periods.

I don't understand all the rage. Women have periods. Trans men have periods. They are all people 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️

It's erasing women.

I guess it's rather useful to have a generic word without having to over generalise to people or to medicalise with menstruation.

because there are so many things which that group of ( people who menstruate + people who will or used to menstruate and people who you might reasonably have expected to have experienced menstruation in their lives but didn't /haven't /won't due to so illness or disability) have in common that is distinct from the group of people who would never have Been ever expected to menstruate

You know , things like being discriminated against because of belonging to that group ( I won't write the full list out again, woman was such a useful shorthand ) . Always useful to track discrimination in your society. And imagine in a heart attack situation , wher symptoms are different depending which set of people you belong to...and having to read the full list of people who experience a similar set of symptoms to explain why you don't have gripping chest pains.

Women and transmen is more succinct and somewhat less offensive to women

Menstruator is succinct and doesn't bother me. Most menstruators are women, a few identify as men. The small minority that identify as men don't somehow erase all the women.

This isn't inclusive language - it's to stop women of all generations from being able to talk knowingly, honestly and medically about their own bodies.

I expect “people who menstruate” will have to become a “spectrum” ranging from people who you thought would menstruate, through people who though they might have menstruated that month but didn’t, to people who have permanent break through bleeding on implants, incorporating those who do not menstruate but have drug induced withdrawal bleeds. Then there are the floods caused by a lack of ovulation so no menstrual cycle so not actually menstruation. Not sure if you include the people with unexplained bleeds or the postmenopause bleeds that turn out to be hormonal blips.

A bit excluding of people with medical conditions too.

They call themselves a women's health practitioner.

Dropped the ball there massively.

People who menstruate is useless and ignores the reality of periods

Unless you are having you period at that time, how can you know if you will have the next one or not

It is totally at odds with actual female biology

Say you have a talk in a school about periods

You only want to give it to people it's applicable to

You can't say it's for the girls any more

So you say it's for all the children who are menstruators-?

So the girls who haven't started their periods yet aren't included
And everyone will know who has started and who hasn't
Periods are still very embarrassing for girls

It's bizarre

What are the other options

Cis girls and trans boys excludes non binaries
...?

And I cannot imagine and have not heard it suggested that boys should be referred to as ejaculatory when it comes to sex education.

Ejaculators that should say

I am a woman for a couple of real and physical reasons, and a few more ‘womanly’ things too I suppose.

That’s how I describe myself, and I won’t use any new fangled term that had been decided by people who want to expand the term ‘woman’ or are killing themselves to appear right in and not to ‘upset the...’.

‘Woman’ - we all know what they mean when they say that. Why try to complicate things by nonsense speak?

Would the school invitation go to

All children who have an expectation they may menstruate or have already started menstruation

?

Does everyone even know what menstruate means? We only said periods when I was a girl.

They call themselves a women's health practitioner.

I'd guess the author didn't write that blurb - the one on amazon uses 'women' appropriately. I've just started listening to the audible sample on there and she certainly uses 'woman' ... give it a go, it starts well!

www.amazon.co.uk/Period-Power-Harness-Hormones-Working/dp/147296361X

How will the children know if they are to expect periods once the biology lessons have been changed to decouple physical processes from words etc? Boys and girls can menstruate, so which know whether to go to the talk?

Can't we just have some new words for women/ girl? Cunts would do it's what we get called and seen as a lot of the time anyway.

'Girls, women and other menstruators' would also do the trick.

So the school invite in my example should go to 'girls and other menstruators'.

But that would include transgirls and girls who don't ID as girls (trans boys and NB) and haven't started their periods yet.

That doesn't work.

You seem to be quite keen on this new language so I'd really like to know how the school example would be addressed.

Sorry it would include transgirls

And exclude girls who don't ID as girls (trans boys and NB) and haven't started their periods yet.

So doesn't work at all.

I saw your thread title and thought, that reminds me of that bloody awful book i had to return to Audible

I got a few chapters in, but it was just such patronising shite, and yes she does talk about people with periods and menstruators all the way through.

'People with periods' missing school cause they can't afford sanpro are there many boys missing school because of this?

I looked the book up on Amazon and the blurb uses "women" throughout

Frogs how many trans boys are there in the average school? I am sure adequate wording could be arranged and the right pupils contacted without the school office going into meltdown.

'To all those who have started or expect to start their periods...'

I’m sick of this nonsense. I’m also sick of my fucking periods and men are welcome to them... except they can’t have them because only women have periods.