Stewart Lee

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He’s on tour and I’ve just seen a Twitter post by someone saying he had a dig at Ricky Gervais’ Transphobia. That he hates Ricky Gervais is no surprise (I’m more of a Stewart Lee gal myself) but has anyone seen him live on this tour? I want to stick my fingers in my ears if he is because I bloody love his comedy.

Oh no, hang on, actually that sounds like a rally

I remember ages ago he did a whole TV show about that scene in Only Fools and Horses where Del Boy falls through the opening in the bar.

It had recently been voted the funniest scene in TV history of something. So he spent half an hour slagging it off and slagging the people who voted for it off. Very slowly. TbH, he wasn’t witty or clever enough to pull it off and it just became very boring.

Then at the end, he showed the clip and it was far funnier than anything Stuart Lee had said.

It put me right off him, the smug arse.

I love Stewart lee and saw his latest show live during its test stage

There was one offensive joke but to be honest the rest of what he says resonates with me

It’s hard to agree with one person in every aspect

I also dislike a lot of Ricky gervais comments but others I am 100% behind

He’s always been over rated.

And also a perfect example of a woke bro with seething, suppressed misogyny.

Half his show is about people not finding him funny. He knows he's not for everyone. I doubt there's a single comedian who everyone finds funny.

I really love Stewart Lee.
Ricky G and transphobia was literally half a sentence. The show was great, overall.

He's an acquired taste stretching out a set up as far as he possibly can whilst 'in character' as the embittered comedian SL as opposed to Herring who I think probably is a bit bitter deep down that they used to be on tele decades ago and it tests my patience tbh. It can have my nerves screaming with the tedium, I usually can't take it.
but his slow build of Bojo Critique in cumulative Guardian articles which has now led up to: Boris Piccaninny Watermelon Letterbox Cake Bumboys Vampires Haircut Wall-Spaffer Spunk-Burster Fuck-Business Fuck-the-Families Get-Off-My-Fucking-Laptop Girly-Swot Big-Girl’s-Blouse Chicken-Frit Hulk-Smash Noseringed-Crusties Death-Humbug Technology-Lessons Surrender-Bullshit French-Turds Dog-Whistle Get-Stuffed FactcheckUK@CCHQ 88%-lies Get-Brexit-Done Johnson....does make me wonder whether the long term aim is to have his whole word count based on one sentence with the aforementioned in it.

As for Gervais SL compares him with Boris and Jeremy Clarkson as examples of people whose ''careers have flourished by exploiting the notion that they are lone voices of sanity against a politically correct snowflake cabal intent on silencing normal blokes like them...'' and he refers to the golden globes, RG ''saying the things that he is apparently not allowed to say, on a variety of global media platforms, for millions of dollars, with the full co-operation and approval of the legal representatives of the institutions on which, and about which, he says the things he is not allowed to say''.
He goes on:
''In the Wokefinder General’s case, it’s often downwards, towards transgender people, for example, and the disabled, or “mongs” as the Wokefinder General once said.
In the Wokefinder General’s mawkish sitcom After Life, the Wokefinder General’s character considers suicide because his wife dies of a terminal illness. But in real life, the Wokefinder General has been praised by Sarah Vine, which is worse than losing a loved one prematurely, and so the Wokefinder General should do the decent thing, not prevaricate like his cowardly sitcom character, and kill himself immediately.''

Some of that is fairly on the money tbf.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/12/ricky-gervais-and-jeremy-clarkson-are-no-laughing-matter

Dh loves him. I like him and have seen him live a couple of time but I find him live rather smug. It’s all about being rude and running the audience down.
He’s married to Bridget Christie. I don’t know her views.

The smugness is part of the act though, no? A reviewer recently described it as faux self-regard.
Bridget Christie won the fringe award for A Bic For Her. I didn't see it but I read the book and it was decent, not sure why she would be rebuked/maligned unless people thought she was somehow cashing in espousing feminist views

He’s married to Bridget Christie

you learn something new everyday. I really like her. Like the OP, I want to stick my fingers in my ears if she's been taken in by the 'most oppressed ever' rhetoric. it would make me v sad

I think that's kind of the point isn't it? seeing someone you like and respect espousing and defending views that are clearly nonsense, and moreover, anti women

The smugness is part of the act though, no?

Well yes. But I always feel that someone’s stand up persona is rather like being drunk. You don’t do or say things you wouldn’t do otherwise but rather they are amplified.

I used to love him, went to see his live tour a couple of years ago and it was boring and drawn out and just meh, so I'm not surprised he's not on the right side

As others have said, he is perhaps an acquired taste, but he has a brilliant, inquiring mind so I wouldn't be at all surprised if he comes out as gender critical.

I feel as though anyone who has only watched him briefly may be missing out, so if anyone is undecided about him then I would strongly recommend watching more of his shows.

I generally love Stewart Lee. I'd actually love to pick his brains about all this as the nature of offence has been a running theme in his shows for as long as I can remember.

He is very much not for everyone. I think if you like and "get" him, you like him, but i can see why many wouldn't. Despite being a big fan I've been to one or two of his shows that didn't do it for me (mainly the "Joe Pasquale in the garden" routine), but he usually makes me think, at least.

I saw his most recent show a few months ago when it was at its try-out stage (I've seen him a few times and I like him normally). He did indeed have a go at Ricky Gervais specifically for transphobia - he said something sarcastic like, "Because trans people really aren't getting enough of a kicking."

The weird thing is that a couple of months later I saw James Acaster's latest show (the cold lasagna one) and he opened his set by having a go at Gervais in almost exactly the same terms, ie about trans people having it too easy. I very much doubt that they copied each other. I think they both thought Gervais was an easy target and came up with the same lazy joke.

I was more disappointed in Acaster in a way. He's been so funny when I've seen him before - very surreal and quite endearing. Now he just sounds like any other woke comedian, full of swearing and political correctness.

They probably have the same additional material writers.

It seems that most comedians don’t like Gervais. He’s done very well and it’s much more popular to kick up than kick down.

His dig at Ricky Gervais was over-long and far too laboured

Does he have any 'jokes' which are not tortuously overworked? That's his thing.

I really love him but it's not going to be most people's humour. No surprise if he's uberwoke, but he's not preaching and he's very aware of his own smugliberalmetropolianeliteness.

My husband watches his stand up. I have never found him either funny or interesting. I find too contrived.

Ricky Gervais seems more natural but I don’t like him either.

Give me Ross Noble any day!

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I've never found him funny. Smug, didactic and like some kind of ghost of Ben Elton from 1984. Except at the time Ben Elton and the Comic Strip people really were in opposition and going against the grain. Stewart Lee is just establishment.

Just seen his show and I can confirm that his scathing of Mumsnet users was peppered in between jokes about rape, Ricky Gervais' transgenderism and right wing suburbia who don't understand 'unisex' toilets or 'gender' (I think you mean mixed sex and sex).

The audience was two woke males per female and I found him worse than the Bernard Manning character this so called progressive Guardianista parodies.

I'm so disappointed that he's just another misogynist that believes he has the right to give away my rights and to joke about rape.

And Stewart's been reading this thread.

Women's rights are so low brow though.

I saw Ben Elton earlier this year and he gets it. He gets feminism and why women's rights need protecting.

I have watched all.of Stweart's shows on TV and was a real fan, but I found tonight's show appalling in terms of the rape jokes and women hating.

I don't know who Stuart Lee is. Googled him and I'm none the wiser.

I am finding it faintly amusing though that he's chosen Ricky TWAW Gervais as his target though.

As far as I can tell, having vehemently denied that certain, specific chaps were actually women when demanding ballwaxing or entry to women's sports,
Gervais' latest stance became something akin to OF COURSE TWAW, although only the most gentlemanly of men were allowed to be women obviously.
Or something.

I'm thinking there's perhaps a scale of gentlemanly behaviour where you accidentally foxtrot past the point of no return to find you've mistakenly entered womanhood.