LangCleg

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I am a long time lurker but infrequent poster here but I needed to bring this to everyone's attention.
I have found out that Mumsnet HQ have banned the fabulous LangCleg simply for repeatedly pointing out the repeated times coercive control has been used by the moderators to stop women talking.
I understand it started with a conversation when a post was deleted because she allegedly used a sweeping generalisation but they couldn't or wouldn't confirm the generalisation and when she challenged them they decided to ban her on the basis of previous comments.

So it now seems pointing out coercive control is now grounds for being banned, thus proving that coercive control is being used.

I for one would like @MumsnetHQ to provide an explanation here as this is really not on

(also taking bets on how long before the thread is deleted)

Thanks Dana

Stange though, nearly 650 comments and counting and this is the one reply from MNHQ.
For anyone else who's missed it and wants to know what's going on with this targarted campaign against posters like Lang

mobile.twitter.com/joss_prior?lang=en

VortexofBloggery

Wow, what a phenomenally bad decision by MN. Of all the people to ban, and they choose the voice of reason. What does that tell you?

Everything. It tells us everything we need to know. Madly gestures and raises eyebrows, trying to communicate past the gag

Safeguarding is important. Lang proved that time and again.

It tells us that we are required to suspend our duty to discuss the safeguarding of children and other vulnerable people when threats to safeguarding come from the transgender activist community.

@HebeMumsnet have you talked to Joss Prior as this tweet claims?

Why are @MNHQ mods taking orders from PBPs?

@LouMumsnet this is what @Doyoumind was talkng about.

Can't be bothered with the eyebrows, Vitriol

This is truly awful. Massive misjudgement and for someone to be crowing about it on Twitter concerns me.

😄
My eyebrows can recite sonnets

I still believe in the rule of law and I still believe that this madness is not sustainable
I really hope you're right Spero I'm also hoping that the various legal cases have the good news that's needed

My eyebrows can recite sonnets

:)

Mine are perpetually in a state of rage.

I just wanted to add my support for Lang on this thread. I'm a frequent lurker, intermittent poster. Lang is a name I recognise because I have always found her posts so valuable. MNHQ why are you helping mean minded, spiteful, inadequate, aggressive men to silence thoughtful articulate women?

One thing no one has mentioned is that WBH is likely to end up as sacred food if Lang ends up with a hagiography if MNHQ don't take their blinders off and reverse ferret.

This is, frankly, unconscionable.

Oh yeah, and poor show, MNHQ. I trust the warm patronage of wankers like Prior will keep you all cosy. It'll take some time to work through banning all of the righteously angry women who post and read here, especially as we keep getting lurkers take our place when you do, but I'm sure the puppetmasters will feed you lots of yummy virtue cookies to keep you going.

Am I going to have to eat soggy wheat and banana goo in solidarity?

If it helps, MNHQ, I'm fairly certain Prior doesn't have enough money to win a lawsuit against you.

Another regular poster who hugely appreciated Lang's clarity, judgement, knowledge and compassion. @MNHQ this is a truly appalling misjudgement. Please reconsider.

Just because this is a parenting site that doesn't mean we have to eat baby food!

(Stamps feet dramatically in imitation of monitors.)

Chinese proverb: When sleeping women wake, mountains move.

All this TRA targetting does is piss lots more women off enough to mobilise them so they take the debate and campaigning off the internet and into the real world. They’re really stupid if they think we’re going to stop talking about this issue. A hundred years ago, brave women died to get us the vote. We’re not just going to roll over and let this slide.

And because I forgot earlier, thank you for all your wise, thoughtful posts Lang. 💐 Don’t let the bastards grind you down.

twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1219748635530944518?s=20

I’m a daily lurker on this board, stepping forward to add my voice, despite a chill running through me - the realisation this is a war on women.

Coercive control. Freedom Programme. Safeguarding. The moderation system has been used as a weapon against a brilliant regular, wonderful poster - who frankly pointed out exactly what was happening
Well said Missing

I was thinking only this morning (wrt the Jess Phillips threads) how invaluable it is to have such top-quality analysis, commentary and discussion freely available, in real time, on MN. LangCleg was absolutely at the core of that. She has been a sort of compass to me in these matters for years now and I am beyond disappointed that her voice has been removed from the discussion here. It's a huge, huge loss and I too will be venturing over to Spinster to follow her there.

MN, you have gained a reputation for serious, incisive and articulate debate in matters of crucial significance to women and girls. This site has the attention of the biggest media outlets, politicians, lawmakers and advisors - as well as those who have a vested interest in silencing women's voices. Remove those who provide your best content on the dictat of those people and you damage your brand, perhaps irreparably. (In addition to the damage you do to women's ability to speak and be heard.)

I’m a daily lurker on this board, stepping forward to add my voice, despite a chill running through me - the realisation this is a war on women.

It is. That's the why behind "no debate", language policing, silencing, banning, threats of job loss. Because the easiest way to win a war is to convince your target that they've already lost, and if that doesn't work then the next easiest is to hide what you're doing until it's too late to fight back.

All this TRA targetting does is piss lots more women off enough to mobilise them so they take the debate and campaigning off the internet and into the real world. They’re really stupid if they think we’re going to stop talking about this issue. A hundred years ago, brave women died to get us the vote. We’re not just going to roll over and let this slide.

This. Hear it loud and clear, cowardly, craven politicians and companies who value virtue signalling over women's rights, safety, privacy and dignity. We will persist. Courage calls to courage everywhere.

Extremely disappointing decision to ban Lang.