Male abuser transitions and released from prison.

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Male abuser who has harmed up to 15 children freed early because transitioning to a woman and lowering testosterone lowers the risk of reoffending.

Nope, transitioning will never be abused by dangerous motives and we should accept this person into our female spaces.

Speechless. Can someone send this to Nicola Sturgeon?

Released with a new identity. Magic. Sure 'Josie' now presents no risk at all, right?

Prison isn’t just about risk of re-offending though. This suggests that the sentence as punishment for serious child abuse is 4 years.

What will the victims and their families make of that?

And will Josie have to go back to prison if she stops the hormones? Is that a condition of release?

One of the victims he sexually assaulted was a one-year old baby.

He's only been in jail for 4 years, and only started identifying as a woman 2 years ago.

The attorney general's spokesman's comments are insane - because he's on hormones there's little chance of him reoffending.. He already reoffended at least 14 times - that's the best indicator of how likely he is to reoffend - and deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life as a punishment.

And we keep hearing from TRAs that 'cis' women also sexually assault people and are jailed as a punishment. Why therefore, if transwomen are women, isn't he staying in jail?

Why is it that when it's of benefit to the TRA lobby and a male they can't wait to shout 'but females do it too!' so female hormones/biology is no barrier to offending and no reason at all, ever, nuh uh, why biological males have no place in women's prisons, or toilets or changing rooms, and females doubting this are stupid, weird etc etc etc. And females pointing out the offending statistic differences are and the statistics are obviously false.

But when it's of benefit to the TRA lobby and a male, of course those statistics and hormones matter and make a difference! How stupid/wrong/frigid/ to think that someone with 15 imprisonable offences and shattered lives in their wake is now someone who should be released early and benefit from that privilege.

There used to be a saying in Leeds: 'they can make their mouth say anything that one'.

The TRA lobby and the politicians serving it have really one core belief that everything else boils down to. Every decision, every thought, is absolutely predicated on it.

It goes quite simply: Heads, males win: tails, females lose.

At least 15 cases of abuse including the abuse of a one year old baby.

was originally ordered to stay behind bars indefinitely on the basis that she had the sex drive of a man.

They are saying testostone has lowred his sex drive.
How do they measure it?
Oh god this is awful.

Unfuckingbelievable.

I thought society had moved on from considering chemical castration to be a suitable treatment for sex offenders. Barbaric.

Another case of abuse in childhood in someone transitioning. Surely someone is joining the dots?

It’s not castration as there’s nothing permanent about it.

It’s also not being given as treatment for paedophilia.

It could easily be seen as a short-term fix for getting early release from prison by people who have committed abhorrent crimes if this goes ahead.

Wow. Where is the justice.
Or common sense for that matter.

How many children's lives need to be devastated in order to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that transition/hormones does not radically alter an offender's personality, core beliefs and sense of entitlement - all of which have to go with a sex drive in order to create a sexual offender.

Which is why we have a country full of males with brilliant sex drives who don't fucking go around raping those they're attracted to.

I currently just want to hammer on the doors of Whitehall, screaming 'is there a grownup I can talk to?'

So it's only a potential gender reassignment surgery?

Medical question? If they stop taking the hormones do they revert? Or is it lifelong damage?

S'funny how the two woman haters on the other thread have nothing to say about this.

(No it isn't..)

@HorseWithNoTimeForThis

Have you inboxed them to ask? maybe they missed it?

He could just stop the hormones though at any time.
Plus who says this abuse was about sex drive. It often isn't. He can still enjoy the power he has abusing children.

Sadly I have no doubt if you dug around in the minutes of the meetings around this decision, you will eventually find suggestions that his offending behaviour was probably in part caused by the stress of not having transitioned. Since I've seen that justification used by extremists in regard to sex offenders against women. They were just acting out their inner confusion and angst and distraught inner child and if they're in a female prison they won't feel the hard feelings and will be distressed enough to act out. (In this empathic, compassionate deconstruct of the behaviour you will find no mention of the victims anywhere, nor any suggestion that the offender should be expected to take any kind of responsibility for their own behaviour and management of their feelings.)

I honestly wish I was kidding. But once you see this crap your cynicism just gets driven ever deeper.

I currently just want to hammer on the doors of Whitehall, screaming 'is there a grownup I can talk to?'
This right here.

And yes, Horse, that curious absence stands out to me, too. Especially in light of the accusation that FWR feminists post problematic stories without any evidence, when what I see here every day instead are links to news items, research papers, etc.

Michelle it is a narrative that we see (obviously at a less extreme level) in schools at the moment.

Poor behaviour is caused by ‘unmet needs’ and it is the fault of schools and society that those needs are not met. Every effort must be made to meet the needs of the individual, and then the behaviour will disappear.

That the behaviour does not disappear is due to the failings of teachers and schools, and if they ‘give up’ on the pupil and expel them, they are leading the pupil to more extreme behaviour.

Any child whose education is disrupted by said misbehaviour isn’t taken into consideration, any teacher who quits because they can’t cope is ‘in the wrong job’.

noblegiraffe but of course it is completely different with children. We shouldn't blame teachers, but children are children and every effort should be made to meet their needs in order to try and get rid of the poor behaviour. A child who is misbehaving badly certainly does have unmet needs, they are just not necessarily ones that the school can meet. I am not sure that this is comparable at all.

How was he taking these hormones? As soon as he walks out the door he can stop taking them.

He might as well just say I won't offend any more because 'Simon Says'.

As could any other sex offender. Well, all of them.

How can people be this stupid?

Yes, tell us again how transgender people are the most marginalised and vulberable among us? Oh yeah, they're NOT.

This is ridiculous. It’s isn’t absence or presence of testosterone that makes you a paedophile and child abuser.

Jesus christ.

Why aren't TRAs up in arms against shit? It doesn't help their cause.