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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jolyon Maugham lets slip

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EwwSprouts · 22/12/2019 16:53

In an attempt to show both sides of the GC / self-ID can be vile he takes offence at "Why is it so important to you that men are able to access our facilities? Is it personal?". Why? Because he says such a suggestion is equivalent to calling him a "pervert". So there you have it, agreement that men who want to be in female toilets tend to have a dubious sexual motivation.

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Tocopherol · 26/12/2019 19:39

I get the impression he likes to emphasise the "wife's kimono" aspect because he thinks that makes it funny. Haha, look at me, wearing women's clothes, how ridiculous.

VortexofBloggery · 26/12/2019 19:48

Couldn't he have shooed it away like everyone else does? Seems overly dramatic. What's his record on fox hunting? I'm expecting something wildly hypocritical.....

AutumnRose1 · 26/12/2019 20:07

Vortex it was trapped in chicken wire. He’s saying he couldn’t try to free it because it would be too dangerous. I think that means he was worried the fox would take a bite out of the kimono.

BeardedVulture · 26/12/2019 20:11

I keep chickens. There are loads of foxes round here. One lives under the neighbour’s shed.

We’ve lost four chickens to foxes so far. Whose fault is that? Mine, because they weren’t secured properly and foxes are gonna fox. I’d never hurt one of them. I’ve caught one attacking my hens and it ran off as soon as it saw me. I don’t understand why anyone would beat a living creature to death like that.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 26/12/2019 20:11

You would think after the earlier fox/kimono incident in November someone would have got him a kimono of his own for Christmas, wouldn't you?

SirVixofVixHall · 26/12/2019 23:57

I really would not want a man who could do this as a friend, or even a colleague. If the fox was trapped in plastic netting or wire then he could have cut it or called out the RSPCA to help free the fox. Bludgeoning it with a bat, I mean he must have been covered in blood, it would be like killing a dog fgs, horrific. What is wrong with him ? Is he mentally ill ?

AutumnRose1 · 27/12/2019 00:31

Wonder what he did with fox after beating it.

I do think there are many psychopaths at the top of their tree.

“Snakes in Suits” is a great read. Also helps to spot work psychopaths but then again, most of us don’t have trouble with that.

popehilarious · 27/12/2019 00:40

So it's confirmed that Jolyon's bat's hit.

(That was far too laboured for my liking; apologies!)

Definitelyrandom · 27/12/2019 00:47

Fair to say that while I think of foxes as dodgy big rats with bushy tails, I would have got properly dressed with wellies and big gloves on and taken a pair of long cutters to cut through the plastic netting. How difficult is it? Presumably his wife could’ve come out with the baseball bat to clout the fox if things had got nasty.

Catmaiden · 27/12/2019 00:48

I keep chickens. I've lost lots of chickens to foxes. If I found a fox tangled in wire or netting or whatever, there is no way I'd beat it to death with a baseball bat.
Just no. No.

VanGoghsDog · 27/12/2019 01:08

I'd quite like to do a straw poll of how many people keep a baseball bat in the house. I most certainly don't.
I didn't even have a kimono in the house so I'd have no chance of defending any chickens.

The whole thing is bonkers and I agree, he has gone a bit odd over the last year or so.

BiarritzCrackers · 27/12/2019 01:13

Goodness, I just saw on The Papers on Sky News that the Mail has this as its cover story in the morning.

YellaHumberElla · 27/12/2019 01:19

This sounds entirely made up to me. I find it completely impossible to believe that a fox can somehow become entangled in chicken wire. It just wouldn’t happen.

And yes, killing a fox like that would be the equivalent of beating a dog the size of a spaniel to death. Horrific.

Of course if he’s making up stories like this, you have to wonder whether he’s quite the ticket.

lydiamajora · 27/12/2019 01:58

The poems on Twitter are killing me.

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GeordieTerf · 27/12/2019 01:58

Slightly off-topic, but I have to know:

How do you pronounce his name?

GrinitchSpinach · 27/12/2019 02:24

you have to wonder whether he’s quite the ticket. Oh yes.

When we lived in London, we saw foxes pretty often. One day I heard growling outside our door and saw that the cat was facing down an intruder. I froze for a second, then shouted to scare the fox away. All the time I felt sure that the cat’s time had come.

Luckily the cat’s spirited self defense and my shouting combined to scare the fox away. (May the cat Rest In Peace; she died of natural causes about six years later.)

Nevertheless this happened shortly after a London baby was attacked in his cot by a fox, so I wondered afterward what I would have done had it been my then-2-year-old and not my cat attacked outside the kitchen door. I concluded that I would have grabbed the nearby frying pan and bludgeoned the animal, but probably vomited afterward, and the incident would have disturbed me forevermore thereafter.

I just can’t understand JM’s reaction to club a trapped animal, and then joke about it on Twitter...

Snowjive2 · 27/12/2019 02:39

FGS it’s just a fox. Not a child. Tweeting what he did was a dick move, and I entirely disagree with him on the trans issue, but as a silk myself I have a lot of respect for JM. Tax silks are bloody bright and can coin it (£700 per hour and upwards). He chooses Instead to spend 75% of his time not earning mega dollar on tax cases but bringing cases such as that in which the Supreme Court ruled that Johnson unlawfully prorogued Parliament. That was important, and thoroughly laudable. A twatty tweet about an urban fox is not, but doesn’t diminish the good work he has done.

terfsandwich · 27/12/2019 02:40

Jolyon is world news! On the front page of The Age website (Melbourne, Australia).

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 27/12/2019 02:49

He’s saying he couldn’t try to free it because it would be too dangerous.

Poor thing was a fox, not a leopard. A pair of sturdy gloves and some wire cutters, or even scissors would have got the job done.

On the one hand a man who thinks he’s a hero for berating women, and in the other a coward who would rather get his jollies by bashing a helpless creature to death, rather than risk a nip. It’s a pretty acccurate, self-depiction of your classic misogynist.

I’ve seen videos of people rescuing bears and sharks, and yes, leopards, out of compassion and courage.

As to the kimono, well, there’s being funny and then there’s, well, who knows really. Perhaps he could have asked for his very own dressing gown for Xmas? Perhaps for his birthday after his wife finds it difficult to get the bloodstains out of her kimono.

RadicalFern · 27/12/2019 02:51

Snowjive one might have thought that as a lawyer he ought to have more respect for the law. Or does he get free pass to club to death a certain number of animals because he's done some public interest work?

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 27/12/2019 02:56

“ A twatty tweet about an urban fox is not, but doesn’t diminish the good work he has done.”

Ya reckon? The pro-trans Twittersphere appears to believe jk_rowling deserves destitution and death for a mild defence of material reality.

But a man beating a small animal to death is “twatty”?

I have had to kill a chicken and a kitten, who’s suffering deserved of immediate relief. There was nothing but sadness in both instances - not things I would feel like boasting in public about.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 27/12/2019 03:02

@Snowjive2 Mmm it actually seems like he spends 75% of his time on Twitter. I marvel he has any time left at all to read briefs.

I don't think he's bright and he obviously has terrible judgment. Some people are very good at maths but their technical smarts don't mean they are intelligent.

Snowjive2 · 27/12/2019 03:19

@Confessions, sorry but that’s a fatuous post. If you had any idea what it takes to get silk in tax law, you would not suggest that he is not bright.
Poor judgement re today’s tweet - I agree, that’s why I described it as a dick move.
But he did really important work in securing the Supreme Court’s declaration that Johnson unlawfully prorogued Parliament. That will go down in history, his idiotic tweet this morning will not.

IsadoraQuagmire · 27/12/2019 07:21

They're talking about it on Petrie Hosken's show on BBC Radio London now.

GirlDownUnder · 27/12/2019 07:55

Poor judgement re today’s tweet - I agree, that’s why I described it as a dick move.
But he did really important work in securing the Supreme Court’s declaration that Johnson unlawfully prorogued Parliament.

So if someone does important work (in your opinion) they’re good to beat an animal to death?
And I’m sure that animal was quiet, and not in distress and trying to escape a mad man in a kimono with a weapon.

Yikes.

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