Don't worry women....a transwoman's sexuality is docile, patient, hesitant & fragile

[BoxOfBabyCheeses]

medium.com/@cassiebrighter/what-do-we-do-about-women-with-a-penis-70e783fb952e?

I was scrolling through the cyclepath's twitter and came across this above link. I am genuinely dumbfounded that people actually spout this rubbish. An excerpt below:

^We talked about the symbology of the penis. Jimena and I immediately agreed that penis-owners have historically hurt vagina-owners in many ways. Some of these ways have specifically included the penis as a weapon, as an instrument of harm. Some of the women in the circle could be survivors of rape or sexual assault. So it is really important to start by openly acknowledging that history, and that symbology. And by directly addressing those concerns.
The event leader can explain that, while there is an obvious similarity between a trans woman's genitals and those of a man, this person's genitals have received years of female hormones. They respond differently, they carry a different energy. While a man's penis is an object of great pride, a trans woman's member is often a source of dysphoria and shame. A man's penis swaggers and struts, conquers and acquires, penetrates. A trans gal's genitals generally carry none of this energy. Speaking in generalities, a man's sexuality is urgent and assertive, and can be invasive. A trans gal's sexuality is docile, patient, hesitant, fragile. (Note: An acquaintance asked me to emphasize I’m speaking in generalities here. You may find men who are shy, docile and/or passive with their penis. You may find trans women who are comfortable using their genitals for penetration. As with anything, YMMV — but I’m speaking from having spoken with dozens upon dozens of trans women.)^

No thank you

From the article, about deciding whether to include a bepenised transwoman in a gathering for women where there will be nudity:

"It’s up to the organizer, the event leader;" Jimena said. "They should have framed the event in such a way that all present understand and agree with that inclusivity.”

So, yet again, “inclusivity” specifically means excluding women who don’t want to deal with seeing a penis in what is supposedly an event for women.

Humpty-Dumptyism. (My favorite newly learned expression)

At least Jimena understands that women should be warned ahead of time to avoid a horrible situation, but I have to suspect the only people she’s concerned with sparing are the havers of oh-so-shy penises on their quest for validation.

The centering of the male self, yes, and also the conviction that women are understanding things wrongly and need to be told. The event leader can explain...

Watching/listening to people talk in graphic detail about fetishes you don't share is always more awkward than arousing.

This. Especially when it's framed as 'what all women do'.

A mental 'backing away slowly' is unavoidable.

"They should have framed the event in such a way that all present understand and agree with that inclusivity.”

The problem there, Jimena, is that people understanding that you plan to expose them to unwanted penis is not at all the same thing as them agreeing to it. Often quite the opposite, in fact.

I'm still so shocked by this, enough that I'm considering posting it to my FB. People need to see how farcical theses arguments are, and a positive side effect may be that anyone who calls me a bigot/terf/transphobe will be quickly removed from my friends list.

Is anyone else open about their GC beliefs on FB? It feels like a big step to take.

I post questions, rather than make statements, the aim for me is sunlight, not adversity.

For example, with your link I would post something like ‘Surely people don’t actually think like this? Everyone agrees that rape victims deserve to heal away from stranger’s penises, don’t they? Is this satire? It’s getting more and more difficult to tell!’

If a trans gal’s sexuality is docile, patient, hesitant & fragile, is that not rather at odds with the belief that TWAW? As not all natal women’s sexuality are all (or even any) of those things. Seems rather odd to claim that a group is part of a larger group because of a, while acknowledging that fundamental difference b exists. OTOH...they just didn’t think that far. They never considered that natal women might not fit neatly into the box they want to keep us in. It’s too uncomfortable because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

Oh, come on.
These are especially fragile, delicate ladies who need special consideration. Naturally.

while there is an obvious similarity between a trans woman's genitals and those of a man

Where's the Dick Dastardly and sniggering Mutley emoticon?

My sexuality is fragile in the way that it's easily turned off by male bullshit.

Im actually sick of this bullshit. It could be funny for it's denial of reality if I wasn't camping while dudes inhabit shelters with their shy fragile dicks.

Hey Detroit! Glad you’re back. Hope you’re ok

Detroit .

You're right, Detroit, it's not even funny.
You have to wonder what goes on in the head of a woman who reads these penis essays and goes 'I hear you sister, and you're welcome to our spaces'.
Or Guardian journalists who see perverts like Yaniv as victims because the story was only covered by 'right wing' media.
Or Scottish women politicians who are busy throwing other women under the bus in the name of wokeism.

Women need to wake the fuck up.

It feels like we're in some giant episode of Candid Camera or Black Mirror. How can people genuinely believe this utter arse gravy?

I DO NOT WANT PENISES IN MY SPACES. I DO NOT CONSENT TO THAT.

I don't care how lovely or otherwise the person the penis is attached to is. I don't care how tortured or otherwise they are. If they have a penis, if they were born with a penis, they are male and need to stay out of women's spaces.

And I am absolutely fucking sick of having to type 'penis'!

I honestly think that for some of these woke women, at a deep level they don't want to address and would deny, it's the validation from men that they crave.

They tell themselves "I'm so modern and right-on and nice and understanding, welcoming this poor woman who's been born in the wrong body as a true sister, and convince myself "her" penis" isn't a problem."

But at some level it's about needing men to tell you what a success you are as a woman and getting the reward of meeting their approval for your willingness to lie back and take anything.

I sound like a bitch but that dynamic does get acted out between normal/straight men and women in relationships, and I think there is something of that same thing. I don't think it's a coincidence that women who are prepared to point out biological reality and defend women's sex-based rights tend to be women who place less value on winning male approval generally.

Remember when Women's refuges didn't exist?
And women shouted until society decided to provide refuges for women?
No, me neither.

Women set up refuges for women.

It's a shame transwomen are too fragile to do anything like that, for each other.

I don't think it's a coincidence that women who are prepared to point out biological reality and defend women's sex-based rights tend to be women who place less value on winning male approval generally.

Wow. I thought that was worth highlighting. I hadn't thought of that before.

@CatInTheDaytime very good point which explains women willing to sacrifice themselves and others for bepenised people.

I have nosedived into a twitter rabbit hole today and I'm seriously starting to question what kind of world we are bringing young girls (and boys) up in.

This is exactly the stuff women's shelters are peddling. It's a female penis. They are women. It's a different kind of penis, it belongs to a woman. Let's see if there's ways you can use mindfulness not to be triggered by these female penises.

I gave up. Ill just get through as best I can. How can I trust women who don't know what a man is, to keep me safe from a man. How can they recognize the abuse I suffered if they cannot even name the problem?

Box have a look at some of the family based threads on relationships, AIBU and chat, there'll be lots of them coming up with Christmas. You'll find a steady theme appearing by a few posters of women telling the OP that their duty is to be a doormat to others, and a whole lot about the hierarchical battles of women clinging to male approval or nearness to the throne of male, whether that's their son or their role as matriarch. So much of this is about female power so often being contingent on permission and approbation of males.

I've been in a lousy mood all day with PMT and the only thing I can say about fragile, hesitant and docile penises in female spaces is that my vagina is aggressive and bites.

It's a female penis. They are women. It's a different kind of penis, it belongs to a woman. Let's see if there's ways you can use mindfulness not to be triggered by these female penises.

Detroit I've heard you describe what you were put through before, it doesn't appal me any less hearing it a second time. It's truly shocking. Abusive gaslighting. Have you ever heard (can you even imagine) anyone daring to suggest to a trans person that they could use mindfulness to not be triggered by being misgendered or using facilities for their biological sex? The massive imbalance of power, the subordination of women is right there.

It would not have hurt so badly if it wasn't a woman telling me to work out ways to cope. A man telling me the same, ild understand, but the sheer sadness of a woman talking to me that way was overwhelming.

The shelters here are parroting this baloney to the last poisonous drop. I cannot let it go unchallenged. I don't matter, my life is now what it is, limited how it will be, but I'm very worried for my sisters who have to negotiate this poison and try use these places and these counsellors to recover. I'm worried for younger women who could rebuild a life if it were not for this queer theory bullshit.

I guess I'm not going to do much good, and sure as heck will be dismissed with an ok Boomer from these dictators. Or worse, looked at pityingly and told to manage my PTSD better while tiptoeing around on eggshells so not too upset transwomen..

Good grief, this again.
You might think your cock is different to other cocks. It could be the most shy, demure quiet little cock in the world. It is still a cock though. And so still does not belong in women only spaces.