Don't worry women....a transwoman's sexuality is docile, patient, hesitant & fragile

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medium.com/@cassiebrighter/what-do-we-do-about-women-with-a-penis-70e783fb952e?

I was scrolling through the cyclepath's twitter and came across this above link. I am genuinely dumbfounded that people actually spout this rubbish. An excerpt below:

^We talked about the symbology of the penis. Jimena and I immediately agreed that penis-owners have historically hurt vagina-owners in many ways. Some of these ways have specifically included the penis as a weapon, as an instrument of harm. Some of the women in the circle could be survivors of rape or sexual assault. So it is really important to start by openly acknowledging that history, and that symbology. And by directly addressing those concerns.
The event leader can explain that, while there is an obvious similarity between a trans woman's genitals and those of a man, this person's genitals have received years of female hormones. They respond differently, they carry a different energy. While a man's penis is an object of great pride, a trans woman's member is often a source of dysphoria and shame. A man's penis swaggers and struts, conquers and acquires, penetrates. A trans gal's genitals generally carry none of this energy. Speaking in generalities, a man's sexuality is urgent and assertive, and can be invasive. A trans gal's sexuality is docile, patient, hesitant, fragile. (Note: An acquaintance asked me to emphasize I’m speaking in generalities here. You may find men who are shy, docile and/or passive with their penis. You may find trans women who are comfortable using their genitals for penetration. As with anything, YMMV — but I’m speaking from having spoken with dozens upon dozens of trans women.)^

"While she might not refer to her genitals by the words 'penis' or 'testicles,' that’s what they are anatomically. And, though transformed by several years of female hormones, her genitals are likely to be understood as "male genitals" by most women present."

Except self ID requires no use of hormones, self ID says that if you say you are a XXXX you should be treated and have access to the same rights as a XXXX with no requirement for any form of hormone therapy or surgery and so no 'feminisation' of genitalia

Is there a woman on the planet who talks endlessly about her genitals. Whether her vagina is assertive or not, the fragility of her clitoris and the docility of her vulva?

Jimena and I immediately agreed that penis-owners have historically hurt vagina-owners in many ways.

At this precise moment I am a raised middle finger owner...

Is there a woman on the planet who talks endlessly about her genitals. Whether her vagina is assertive or not, the fragility of her clitoris and the docility of her vulva?

Eve Ensler

Trying to think of any leading light of the activist movement who the words 'docile, patient, hesitant and fragile' would come to mind for.

Angry, aggressive, threatening, demanding and arrogant, yes, plenty of examples of that. Call me ma'am? Yes, just look at the hesitant fragility and safety right there.

And then there’s all that extra skin around the penis — called the rest of the male body, ie a male person who grew up with male entitlement and who expresses that entitlement in a myriad ways, including claiming that the penis is now female.

It’s the ENTITLEMENT that isn’t docile, not one fucking bit, and which communicates danger to women.

What repulsive XY people trying to foist their creepy porn fantasies on women.

No decent man would behave like them.

Yuck.

"The event leader can explain that, while there is an obvious similarity between a trans woman's genitals and those of a man"

Imagine writing that with a straight face!

Oh gawd not this old chestnut again...for some reason the description of the special lady peen always puts me in mind of a naked mole-rat, no idea why...

I'll be frank. If XY people want me to think they aren't creepy weirdos that are best avoided like the plague talking endlessly, or at all really, about their genitals is not the way to go about it.

That's XY people generally regardless of any unsubstantiated beliefs they may hold, not aimed at any particular subcategory of XY people.

Op

They respond differently, they carry a different energy.

Oh do they.

Oh grrrrrr! Again it's that endless centring of the fucking male self, genitals, POV and generally everything.

What if the point isn't how your precious penis behaves and feels, but how women feel about having a man in their protected space? Maybe a woman who's been raped or abused, a woman who's scared and confused, a woman whose culture/beliefs say a man shouldn't watch her get changed, a woman who senses a man and feels threatened?

Before all this shit, you wouldn't allow a man in a woman's prison or hospital ward because he's a man, and therefore quite reasonably excluded - not on the basis of his penis's personality. Arrgh

Help... please god help me....

I've been testing my penis and it gives off no energy at all. I've spent all afternoon trying to charge my phone with it...and just nothing.

Is it dead ?

a man's penis swaggers and struts, conquers and acquires, penetrates.

Hello toxic masculine stereotypes!

Why do they believe everyone shares their shitty regressive ideas about sex and gender??????

But facts don't back the premise. Or there would be fewer transwomen sex offenders.

I'm also disproportionately annoyed by "trans gal"

Oh yes because I won't ever find any trans women threatening or invasive as long as you use a cutesy diminutive term that implies they they are rootin-tootin/hockey-stick-waving teenagers. Fuck off!

How do they make ALL penises sound horrible and unappealing? It's not just the ladypeens I want nothing to do with, the swaggering strutting peenor also sounds obnoxious as hell. it probably wears a little cowboy hat.

Actually it's not just penises, somehow transwomen writing about sex manage to make every single thing to do with sex sound terrible. I have to stop reading and reach for my own memories in order to recollect that sex is good actually. There's something about the mindset that's a massive turn-off.

this person's genitals have received years of female hormones. They respond differently, they carry a different energy.

This is utter woo. Genitals carrying an "energy" is out there with "auras", "souls", and other such magical thinking. Law and policy should no more be based on this than on a belief in fairies.

Also, the idea that a women's sexuality workshop, that may be attended by rape victims trying to reclaim their sexuality and bodies in a female-only space, should even consider admitting a penis owner makes me rage and feel sick simultaneously.

The arrogance and narcissistic selfishness needed for a male to try to attend such a workshop and defend h** attendance is breathtaking.

In the absence of transwomen being diagnosed with "ladybrain" by MRI scan, I remind readers that every single one of them is self-diagnosing with "ladybrain". Psychiatric assessment doesn't prove brain structure.

I think the most offensive thing about the trans movement is when they compare themselves to black women not being allowed to share bathrooms with white women before the civil rights movement.

I’ve taken to pointing out that when racial segregation was removed, black and white people shared the same spaces.

The current segregation is male/female, so the equivalent action would be to remove segregation and have mixed sex spaces.

What is happening with the trans narrative is that a few members of the oppressor group are demanding access to the opposite space. The equivalent would be if a small group of white people claimed they were black and demanded access to the spaces black people used, even if that action would cause distress to some of the people who used that space.

Actually it's not just penises, somehow transwomen writing about sex manage to make every single thing to do with sex sound terrible.

Totally agree. It gives me the same icky feeling I get from porn-style descriptions, and seems to come from a similar warped concept of women and sex. Oddly enough! again!

Excellently skewered prion. There's a lot of competition for the most offensive thing about the trans movement, but the whole way they use black women in their arguments really fucks me off too.

I have seen it regularly claimed and promulgated on Twitter that TERFS don't accept black women as feminists. WTAF it had never even occurred to me that there was any difference between a black and a non-black feminist (apart from their different experiences of race obviously and possibly but not necessarily different cultures). And there are many radical black feminists. Really what are they on about?

A man's penis swaggers and struts, conquers and acquires, penetrates. A trans gal's genitals generally carry none of this energy. Speaking in generalities, a man's sexuality is urgent and assertive, and can be invasive. A trans gal's sexuality is docile, patient, hesitant, fragile.

Christ alive. Is it just a very long-winded way of saying that erectile dysfunction is common among 'trans gals'?