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Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?

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ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 16/12/2019 13:04

I’ve only seen this today after some of the tweets have been deleted - did anyone see what happened? A male journo seemed to be going after her. Also she had sent Prick News an email criticising an article - not adhering to suicide reporting guidelines as well as misreporting. She is very balanced on the trans issue - I think it just shows their intolerance if they cannot tolerate even balanced articles and opinions.

Tweet about email sent here:
mobile.twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1206161837185785857

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Binglebong · 17/12/2019 20:19

Has anyone got a link to the apology? I'm late to the party.

Thanks.

PreseaCombatir · 17/12/2019 21:01

You're such a boomer Presea
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Mum4MrA · 17/12/2019 21:27

Another pre-order for Helen's book here.

SunsetBeetch · 18/12/2019 06:43

Dawn Foster has chimed in now. Just waiting for Laurie "I'm so special" Penny and Owen "Mantrum" Jones to join in.

Seriously hope Helen takes legal action against some of these wankers.

"Completely spot on, the vitriol aimed at anyone rightly pointing out transphpbia is horrific, and me and pthers won’t back down over our views. Equality is important, hate is destructive."

twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1206933708579704833?s=19

"i think those later tweets were ill-advised, sure, but given the absolutely vicious transphobia evident in the response to both louis, myself and others, i can't help but feel that attacking him on those grounds might be a bit of a pretext? idk! broadly, he was in the right"

twitter.com/fudwedding/status/1206956959074803712?s=19

"Completely agree. Claiming the election was lost because the manifesto wasn’t transphobia is ludicrous. And I have no idea why so many people seem completely obsessed with toilets. We go in cubicles so I just do not understand why transphobes are so obsessive about loos."

twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1206961937575284736?s=19

"a horrible state of affairs! it needs to be made absolutely taboo -- if you want to be in an obsessive hate cult, there should be some consequences for that"

twitter.com/fudwedding/status/1206965291713843200?s=19

Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
SunsetBeetch · 18/12/2019 07:08

People pointing out Dawn has a bit if an issue with the truth:

Any apology from you Dawn for accusing people concerned about a man filming himself having a wank in his work at the NSPCC of homophobia? Esp now that the NSPCC has sacked him? Or is it still your view that having a wank at work and uploading footage of it to the internet is OK?

twitter.com/campervanwoman/status/1207092916541370369?s=19

Remember this as well? She seems to have a problem with blowing things out of proportion. t.co/FMxO9GlwxG

twitter.com/underhandrea/status/1207194032608358400?s=19

Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
RoyalCorgi · 18/12/2019 09:44

I hadn't previously been aware of the insult towards the gay MP and subsequent refusal to apologise, but it seems to be of a piece with her behaviour. A few weeks ago the Sun picture desk asked her if they could use one of her pictures, and her response was "Absolutely not. Get fucked".

I'm not a fan of the Sun, but that kind of aggression towards a fellow journalist is uncalled-for.

twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/1190319192194605056?lang=en

LangCleg · 18/12/2019 10:24

Dawn being emblematic of why Labour lost the election, I see! The quicker the Grauniad trust fund runs out of cash, the better. We might get some soi disant left wing journalism that helps an election win then!

RoyalCorgi · 18/12/2019 11:18

It's quite hard to have a rational debate with someone who characterises politely-worded disagreement as "absolutely vicious transphobia". You have to wonder how people like her and the other comrades would cope if they really were on the receiving end of people being "absolutely vicious".

nauticant · 18/12/2019 11:56

Much of the time "transphobia" means nothing more than a stick to beat an enemy with. It doesn't need to be substantiated because it is so incredibly serious that even to question such an accusation compounds the original offence.

At some point someone using that stick is going to be sued for defamation. They're going to have a problem when they're asked in court "what was the "transphobia"?".

BovaryX · 18/12/2019 12:24

Much of the time "transphobia" means nothing more than a stick to beat an enemy with. It doesn't need to be substantiated because it is so incredibly serious that even to question such an accusation compounds the original offence

Isn’t part of the problem the subjective nature of hate speech? I know that trans isn’t a category covered by the law, and that’s why PC Gull recorded a ‘hate incident?’ Isn’t this the core of the Harry Miller case? Maybe that ruling will help clarify what constitutes or doesn’t constitute transphobia.

SunsetBeetch · 18/12/2019 13:12

Dawn can tell men from women sometimes though. When it directly affects her:

"Males being male doesn’t change anything unless they’re being paid more than me, dismissing my specifically female experience with doctors or being nominated for awards instead of me t.co/j2fxu5L630 "

twitter.com/elleandback/status/1207252599692578816?s=19

Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
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Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
RoyalCorgi · 18/12/2019 13:32

Exasperating that she can't see her own inconsistency (if I'm being kind) or hypocrisy (if I'm not).

Maybe she's just stupid? It's got to be a possibility.

SunsetBeetch · 18/12/2019 18:09

More from Dawn, courtesy of @elleandback . Dawn doesn't like being harassed by creepy men...

Also her bullshit tweet about the NSPCC toilet wanker. She seems to like spectacularly missing the point on purpose

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